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Re: Many players make up application performance (was Re: Richard Bennett, NANOG posting, and Integrity)
From: Paul WALL <pauldotwall () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:55:19 +0000
It is common courtesy around these parts to not libel your customers, especially when they're paying you lots of money and making up 30% of your incoming traffic. That you're posting in "hypotheticals" does not mask your true messaging. Drive Slow, Paul Wall On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 2:33 PM, McElearney, Kevin <Kevin_McElearney () cable comcast com> wrote:
On 7/28/14, 5:35 PM, "Jim Richardson" <weaselkeeper () gmail com> wrote:I pay for (x) bits/sec up/down. From/to any eyecandysource. If said eyecandy origination can't handle the traffic, then I see a slowdown, that's life. But if <$IP_PROVIDER> throttles it specifically, rather than throttling me to (x),I consider that fraud. I didn't pay for (x) bits/sec from some whitelist of sources only.Along with paying <$IP_PROVIDER> for (x) bits/sec up/down, you are also paying (or the product of advertising) eyecandysource to deliver a service (w/ a level of quality). <$IP_PROVIDER> plays a big role in delivering your *overall* Internet experience, but eyecandysource plays an even bigger role delivering your *specific* eyecandy experience. If eyecandystore has internal challenges, business negotiation/policy objectives, or uses poor adaptive routing path decisions, this has a direct and material impact to your *specific* eyecandy experience (and some have found fixable by hiding your source IP with a VPN). While ISPs do play a big role in this, people tend to miss eyecandystore decisions (and business drivers) as a potential factors in isolated application performance issues.
Current thread:
- Many players make up application performance (was Re: Richard Bennett, NANOG posting, and Integrity) McElearney, Kevin (Jul 29)
- Re: Many players make up application performance (was Re: Richard Bennett, NANOG posting, and Integrity) Paul WALL (Jul 29)
- Re: Many players make up application performance (was Re: Richard Bennett, NANOG posting, and Integrity) William Herrin (Jul 29)
- Re: Many players make up application performance (was Re: Richard Bennett, NANOG posting, and Integrity) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 29)
- Re: Many players make up application performance (was Re: Richard Bennett, NANOG posting, and Integrity) McElearney, Kevin (Jul 29)
- Re: Many players make up application performance (was Re: Richard Bennett, NANOG posting, and Integrity) Corey Touchet (Jul 29)