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Re: Owning a name
From: Mark Rudholm <mark () rudholm com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:17:18 -0700
On 07/30/2014 05:10 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Jul 30, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Collin Anderson <collin () averysmallbird com> wrote:An update, apparently writs of attachment were sent for not only .ir, but also .sy and .kp ccTLDs as well, based on separate cases related to support for terrorism. ICANN has filed a motion to quash the writs and taken the position that the domains are not assets.
ICANN would lose a lot of credibility if the ccTLDs were pulled, because people would simply ignore it.
Press: http://www.securityweek.com/country-specific-web-domains-cant-be-seized-icann Court Documents: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/icann-various-2014-07-30-en On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Mark Rudholm <mark () rudholm com> wrote:On 06/26/2014 10:14 PM, Collin Anderson wrote:On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:00 PM, John Levine <johnl () iecc com> wrote: I've been looking for the case in PACER, and don't seeanything filed this year against ICANN so the case doesn't even exist. Seth Charles Ben HAIM, et al., Plaintiffs, v. The ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OFIRAN, et al., Defendants. Civil Action No. 02-1811 (RCL)It seems to me that even if the ccTLD delegations were removed from the root DNS zone, all sysadmins in Iran would just add the ns.irnic.ir NS record to their cache, effectively ignoring ICANN. I bet a lot of sysadmins outside Iran would do the same thing, since it makes sense to refer to IRNIC for Iranian DNS regardless of any court ruling. Similarly, they'd just keep using their current network numbers. It's not like ARIN would be able to give them to someone else. Nobody would want them. And a lot of us would continue to route those numbers to Iran.Pretty sure that would be a RIPE, not ARIN matter since TTBOMK, Iran et. al. are in the RIPE region (possibly some in AfriNIC actually).
Yes, Iran gets numbers mainly from RIPE NCC. I'm used to dealing with ARIN so that's what comes out of my fingers. But, I'm sure you get my point anyway.
Courts have shown time and again that they don't understand that ICANN is a coordinator, not an authority.Wonder how long it is before we recognize the need for an international technical court for such matters where the guy on the bench has to be not just a lawyer, but a nerd, too. Owen
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- Re: Owning a name Collin Anderson (Jul 30)
- Re: Owning a name Owen DeLong (Jul 30)
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- Re: Owning a name Mark Rudholm (Jul 30)
- Re: Owning a name Owen DeLong (Jul 30)
- Re: Owning a name Randy Bush (Jul 31)