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Re: why IPv6 isn't ready for prime time, SMTP edition
From: Chip Marshall <chip () 2bithacker net>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:16:42 -0400
On 2014-03-25, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se> sent:
I have repeatedly tried to get people interested in methods of making it possible for ISPs to publish their "per-customer" allocation size, so far without any success. Most of the time I seem to get "we did it a certain way for IPv4, it works, we don't want to change it" from people.
So it's yet another chicken-and-egg problem to add to the pile for IPv6. Mail ops don't care because IPv6 isn't here, net ops delay IPv6 because mail isn't ready for it? This seems like to sort of problem that Mailops or MAAWG should be hammering out. There's a great opportunity to get some good BCP documents out there on "Here's how to do email in IPv6" before deployment goes past the point of no return. Spamhaus has had a fair amount of success with getting ISPs to participate in things like the PBL. Why not establish something similar for allocation sizes in IPv6? -- Chip Marshall <chip () 2bithacker net> http://2bithacker.net/
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