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Re: US patent 5473599
From: Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 22:39:57 +0000
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Rob Seastrom <rs () seastrom com> wrote:
Eygene Ryabinkin <rea+nanog () grid kiae ru> writes:If you hadn't seen the cases when same VRIDs in the same network were used for both VRRP and CARP doesn't mean that they aren't occurring in the real world. We use CARP and VRRP quite extensively and when we first were hit by this issue, it was not that funny.+1... but choosing OUI from the VRRP space (hijacking that space) was clearly the poor design choice. Fullstop.+\infty Either it was an intentional conflict that was meant to cause operational problems or it was not. If it was, then a previous characterization of CARP as a trojan is spot on. If it was not (and I'm willing to be charitable here), then the take-away from this is that the folks who made this decision are utterly clueless about standards, the reason for standards, and operations. That would hardly be earth shattering news.
To be slightly less charitable, since I am having hard time coming up with a third option, I am forced to choose between maliciousness and incompetence. And I never thought the OpenBSD team was incompetent. Perhaps I was wrong? But (presuming no adjustments) the patent is now expired, and the OpenBSD team could now release CARPv2 (or whatever they decide to call it) which would implement the standard, should they wish to work and play well with the standards bodies and community. Gary
Current thread:
- Re: US patent 5473599, (continued)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Henning Brauer (May 08)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Owen DeLong (May 07)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Matt Palmer (May 07)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Henning Brauer (May 08)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Bill Fenner (May 08)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Henning Brauer (May 08)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Randy Bush (May 08)
- Re: US patent 5473599 sthaug (May 06)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Eygene Ryabinkin (May 07)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Rob Seastrom (May 07)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Gary Buhrmaster (May 07)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Henning Brauer (May 08)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Saku Ytti (May 08)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Henning Brauer (May 08)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Job Snijders (May 08)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Tony Li (May 07)
- Re: US patent 5473599 Henning Brauer (May 06)