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Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality
From: Clayton Zekelman <clayton () MNSi Net>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 09:27:37 -0400
At 09:02 AM 12/05/2014, Nick Hilliard wrote:
So from a business perspective it makes lots of sense to deprioritise the large companies that don't pay in favour of the ones that do. Those who pay get better service for their customers; seems fair, right?
I think that's where the biggest gulf exists. It doesn't seem fair. It seems like extortion. The last mile access guys are the gatekeepers to the end user, with little competition.
The access providers are saying "Our customers are paying us to use our service, but we don't want to raise our retail prices to match their usage patterns, so we'll put the squeeze on the guys on the other side who are distributing the content. They can raise their prices, so we don't look like the bad guys. The benefit is, since their video services compete with our packaged television services, we may have fewer TV cord cutters."
I have a mix of wholesale and facilities based last mile access in my network. I don't sell TV. I see Netflix as a reason people sign up for my service - not as a competitor trying to "ride my pipes for free". I would welcome peering with them, but sadly, they don't peer in Canada, so their traffic ends up on transit links.
--- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410fax. 519-985-8409
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