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Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch
From: "Israel G. Lugo" <israel.lugo () lugosys com>
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 01:48:35 +0100
Hi, Not intending to start a flame war here. I have been referred to the website below, and believe they certainly raise some valid concerns. http://www.debianfork.org/ If you have the time, please take a moment to read over the text, and follow a few links. I am quoting the first few paragraphs as a summary:
We are Veteran Unix Admins and we are concerned about what is happening to Debian GNU/Linux to the point of considering a fork of the project. Some of us are upstream developers, some professional sysadmins: we are all concerned peers interacting with Debian and derivatives on a daily basis. We don't want to be forced to use systemd in substitution to the traditional UNIX sysvinit init, because systemd betrays the UNIX philosophy. We contemplate adopting more recent alternatives to sysvinit, but not those undermining the basic design principles of "do one thing and do it well" with a complex collection of dozens of tightly coupled binaries and opaque logs.
I understand discussion on this matter has been quite polarized in some circles. As stated, it's not my intention to start an argument on whether A is better than B, nor do I believe that to be the site's purpose. Rather, I would like to divulge and hopefully incite some productive discussion. Regards, Israel G. Lugo
Current thread:
- Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Israel G. Lugo (Oct 20)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Ca By (Oct 20)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Randy Bush (Oct 20)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Miles Fidelman (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Israel G. Lugo (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Owen DeLong (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Bryan Tong (Oct 21)
- RE: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jamie Bowden (Oct 22)
- RE: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Barry Shein (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Lamar Owen (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 21)