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ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB)
From: Danny McPherson <danny () tcb net>
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 12:26:50 -0600
<soapbox>I think the routing system would be in a much happier [less bad] place if only had a minor amount of the energy and resources that USG (and RIRs) have been put towards RPKI and BGPSEC (i.e., IETF SIDR work) would have been redirected to lower hanging fruit and better recognizing / leveraging existent systems and operational practices (e.g., more IRR usage, training, tools, and better hygiene, perhaps expressly validated from resource certification from either RPKI or in-addr.arpa, etc). Given that many of the same derived "policies" there could also be employed for inter-domain datapath anti-spoofing (BCP38-ish inter-domain) and that all the existing machinery and practices already deployed could more easily accommodate this in the near term, it seems only natural to me.
As for the visionaries playing the long game, they've made progress, but surely the only way to get there is with more incremental "putty" and small practical steps to fill the gaps at this point.
</soapbox>I for one would like to see ARIN (as well as other RIRs and the adjacent community) invest more pragmatically in this area, particularly given the governance climate and other externalities at play these days.
Alas, -danny
Current thread:
- RADB Brandon Wade (Oct 08)
- Re: RADB Nick Hilliard (Oct 08)
- Re: RADB Charles Gucker (Oct 08)
- Re: RADB Faisal Imtiaz (Oct 08)
- Re: RADB Brandon Wade (Oct 08)
- Re: RADB joel jaeggli (Oct 08)
- Re: RADB Charles Gucker (Oct 08)
- ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB) Danny McPherson (Oct 23)
- Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB) Christopher Morrow (Oct 23)
- Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB) Danny McPherson (Oct 23)
- Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB) John Sweeting (Oct 24)
- Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB) Christopher Morrow (Oct 24)
- Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB) Baldur Norddahl (Oct 24)
- Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB) Sandra Murphy (Oct 25)
- Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB) Danny McPherson (Oct 25)
- Re: RADB Brandon Wade (Oct 08)
- Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB) Danny McPherson (Oct 25)
- Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB) Bill Woodcock (Oct 25)
- Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB) John Curran (Oct 25)