Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB)

[John Curran <jcurran () arin net>]

On Oct 27, 2014, at 12:58 AM, Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:
> > LACNIC numbers (as a percent) are quite good, but my question 
> > was why only RIPE has the very impressive total count of ROAs.
>
> < conjecture follows >
>
> of course one can never know.  but i conject
>  o the are the largest registry actively promotin registration
>  o the ncc, particularly alex, tim, oleg, ... have put significant
>    effort into making it very easy to register
>  o they have a culture of cooperation and doing things well

Reasonable conjecture; implies that in this region we need to overcome 
our interesting legal situation, make things easy to use, and then do
some significant promotion.  

> > You can clearly point to ARIN's legal treatment of the risks involved,
> > but that is not applicable in the APNIC case....
>
> it is hard to register in apnic, ask folk who have tried.  the most
> active folk are under NIRs, who are only now working on deployment.
> apnic is not really promoting it.

Ah, good to know (and reinforces potential ARIN issues beyond legal 
wrangling)

> > You don't feel there's any correlation between RIPE's IRR approach and
> > their RPKI success?
>
> that's the cooperative culture bit, actually interested in the net
> running well.

Presumably the NANOG community is also interested in keeping the net
running well, so if ARIN can provide some reasonably usable services, 
that shouldn't be an issue.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN