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Re: Peering + Transit Circuits


From: Pshem Kowalczyk <pshem.k () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 23:00:35 +0000

It's actually quite easy.
Provider1 is present at Exchange1 and Exchange2, so is Provider2. Provider2
doesn't want to pay for the traffic between Exchange1 and Exchange2, so it
points a static route for all prefixes it has in Exchange2 via Provider1's
IP address in Exchange1 and does the same in Exchange2. Provider1's router
receives traffic, checks where it should go (Exchange2) and it forwards the
traffic. So the traffic flows like this:

Provider2 (Exchange1) -> Provider1 -> (Exchange2) Provider2, all due to
static routes.

kind regards
Pshem


On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 at 10:38 Faisal Imtiaz <faisal () snappytelecom net> wrote:

Let me start backwards...

To me 'peering' is sharing internal routes and downstream customer
routes,and not external ones.
    IP transit is all of the external routes including internal routes &
downstream customer routes


Having said that..... if one is control of what IP Prefixes get advertised
to whom... how exactly someone (peers) 'steal' transit ?
(If one is not managing the filters well then yes it is possible, but that
would be a configuration error ?)


Maybe I am naive, to my Peering routes (relationships) are a subset of IP
Transit Routes (relationships)

Based on above belief...

Then Item # 3, becomes the choice of the OP.... where one can make one of
two starting assumptions... We will trust everything coming in and change
what we don't like... or We will not trust anything coming in, and change
(accept) what we like.

Items # 1 & 2, would be a function of network design, technical
requirements (maintenance window) etc etc.. easier to deal with a
distributed edge vs all in one when one has to bring anything down for any
reason..

I am open to learning and being corrected if any of the above is wrong !


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Durack" <tdurack () gmail com>
To: cisco-nsp () puck nether net, "nanog list" <nanog () nanog org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:29:31 AM
Subject: Peering + Transit Circuits

Question: What is the preferred practice for separating peering and
transit
circuits?

1. Terminate peering and transit on separate routers.
2. Terminate peering and transit circuits in separate VRFs.
3. QoS/QPPB (

https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog42/presentations/DavidSmith-PeeringPolicyEnforcement.pdf
)
4. Don't worry about peers stealing transit.
5. What is peering?

Your comments are appreciated.

--
Tim:>



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