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Re: Interesting BFD discussion on reddit


From: Hugo Slabbert <hugo () slabnet com>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 08:37:34 -0800

Because BFD packets can get routed across multiple hops. Unlike EBGP where
you connect to a peer in a different AS and you have a direct connection,
BFD packets can traverse multiple hops to reach the endpoint.

Then what's this "multihop" knob I have available in my BGP config? Again, as Rob pointed out, "can" vs. "should" is a good consideration here, but unless I'm missing something both EBGP and BFD "can" do multihop...so...?

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Hugo

On Tue 2015-Feb-17 07:42:20 +0530, Dave Waters <davewaters1970 () gmail com> wrote:

Because BFD packets can get routed across multiple hops. Unlike EBGP where
you connect to a peer in a different AS and you have a direct connection,
BFD packets can traverse multiple hops to reach the endpoint.

In case of multihop BFD the BFD packets also get re-routed when the
topology changes so you can almost never bet on the TTL value to secure the
protocol.

Dave

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:03 AM, Rob Seastrom <rs () seastrom com> wrote:


Dave Waters <davewaters1970 () gmail com> writes:

>
http://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/2vxj9u/very_elegant_and_a_simple_way_to_secure_bfd/
>
> Authentication mechanisms defined for IGPs cannot be used to protect BFD
> since the rate at which packets are processed in BFD is very high.
>
> Dave

One might profitably ask why BFD wasn't designed to take advantage of
high-TTL-shadowing, a la draft-gill-btsh.

-r



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