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Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 21:48:54 -0800
On Feb 27, 2015, at 21:15 , Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu> wrote: On 28/Feb/15 07:07, Owen DeLong wrote:Even in that case, Mark, you have a conference call where each person is sending a stream out to a rendezvous point that is then sending it back to N people where N is the number of people in the chat -1. So the downstream bandwidth will be N*upstream for each of them.But you're assuming the video chat is the only thing taking place in the upward direction... When my wife is doing her iCloud backup, I can't log into a router to do some work without gouging my eyes out.
No, I’m not assuming anything other than that you claimed the video chat justified a need for symmetry when in reality, it does not. I’m all for better upstream bandwidth to the home. I’d love to have everyone have 1G/1G capability even if it’s 100:1 oversubscribed on the upstream. However, I’d much rather have 384M/128M than 256M/256M to be honest. In general, I find my 30M/7M is not too terribly painful most of the time. Do I wish I had more upstream? Yes, but not as much as I wish I had more downstream. I think an ideal minimum that would probably be comfortable most of the time today would be 100M/30M. YMMV. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality], (continued)
- Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Miles Fidelman (Feb 28)
- RE: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality] Naslund, Steve (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Jack Bates (Feb 27)
- RE: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Naslund, Steve (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Miles Fidelman (Feb 27)
- RE: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Naslund, Steve (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Jack Bates (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mark Tinka (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Owen DeLong (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mark Tinka (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Owen DeLong (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mark Tinka (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Owen DeLong (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mark Tinka (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Owen DeLong (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mark Tinka (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Joe Greco (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mark Tinka (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Joe Greco (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Mark Tinka (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Jack Bates (Feb 27)