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Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post)
From: Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 08:31:27 -0700
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu> wrote:
On 1/Jun/15 17:04, Mike Hammett wrote:Actually, that's the level of attention given to all kinds ofinfrastructure just about everywhere. ;-) The difference is that there are standardized (global) guidelines for those infrastructures within their own industry, that lack of compliance can lead to serious fines, jail time or both. A network operator unmaliciously screwing up their BGP configuration and taking one side of a continent out is unlikely to see any punishment beyond being fired by his employer, or losing his customers if self-employed. Mark.
Also, the internet usually works pretty good-ish and the janitors clean up the messes pretty quick-ish. That said, i believe the BGP situation is completely hygienic relative to the DDoS issues going on that could be solved by BCP38 and otherwise fixing poorly admin'd DNS, NTP, CHARGEN, and SSDP nodes. The aforementioned janitors are pretty powerless on this front... and... various parties on all side are looking to cash in (booters on one side, web scrubbers on the other)... which is a very dangerous arms race with real money on both sides looking to escalate the harm / fix. CB
Current thread:
- BGP in the Washngton Post William Herrin (Jun 01)
- Re: BGP in the Washngton Post Måns Nilsson (Jun 01)
- Re: BGP in the Washngton Post Christopher Morrow (Jun 01)
- RE: BGP in the Washngton Post Jeff Masiello (Jun 01)
- Re: BGP in the Washngton Post Ca By (Jun 01)
- Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) Jared Mauch (Jun 01)
- Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) Mike Hammett (Jun 01)
- Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) Mark Tinka (Jun 01)
- Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) Ca By (Jun 01)
- Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) Roland Dobbins (Jun 01)
- Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) Mark Andrews (Jun 01)
- Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) Roland Dobbins (Jun 02)
- Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) Denis Fondras (Jun 02)
- Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) Roland Dobbins (Jun 02)
- Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) Dale W. Carder (Jun 02)
- Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) Ethan Katz-Bassett (Jun 02)
- Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) Roland Dobbins (Jun 03)
- Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) David Mandelberg (Jun 04)
- Re: Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) Roland Dobbins (Jun 04)
- Routing Insecurity (Re: BGP in the Washington Post) Jared Mauch (Jun 01)
- Re: BGP in the Washngton Post Måns Nilsson (Jun 01)