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Re: Google served from non-google IPs?


From: manning <bmanning () karoshi com>
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 13:16:37 -0700

one of the legacy uses of an IX was to place “content” near the eyeballs.   For the adventurous, this meant placing NTP 
chimers, DNS & route servers,
and even content directly on the switch mesh.  Akamai might have been the first to pull back from that and move its 
services behind an Akamai router
that was on the switch mesh.

These days, most folks use BGP “condoms” to protect themselves.

manning
bmanning () karoshi com
PO Box 12317
Marina del Rey, CA 90295
310.322.8102



On 14March2015Saturday, at 12:55, Dave Temkin <dave () temk in> wrote:

Seems like an odd waste of resources; what if Google, Akamai, Netflix, and
anyone else who wanted caches wanted IPs in that block? The IX would be out
of address space pretty quickly, forcing a majority of users to re-number
because of a small number of other users.

-Dave

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Steven Schecter <schecter () gmail com> wrote:

Those IPs appear to be used by to Google cache servers at the QIX.  It's
common for CDNs to utilize provider space and not maintain their own
layer-3.  E.g. cache servers connected to switch, connected to provider,
without the requirement of a router.


/Steve

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Jason Lixfeld <jason () lixfeld ca> wrote:

So today, I saw this:

BlackBox:~ jlixfeld$ host google.ca 8.8.8.8
Using domain server:
Name: 8.8.8.8
Address: 8.8.8.8#53
Aliases:

google.ca has address 206.126.112.166
google.ca has address 206.126.112.177
google.ca has address 206.126.112.172
google.ca has address 206.126.112.187
google.ca has address 206.126.112.151
google.ca has address 206.126.112.158
google.ca has address 206.126.112.157
google.ca has address 206.126.112.173
google.ca has address 206.126.112.181
google.ca has address 206.126.112.155
google.ca has address 206.126.112.147
google.ca has address 206.126.112.185
google.ca has address 206.126.112.143
google.ca has address 206.126.112.170
google.ca has address 206.126.112.162
google.ca has IPv6 address 2607:f8b0:4006:808::100f
google.ca mail is handled by 50 alt4.aspmx.l.google.com.
google.ca mail is handled by 30 alt2.aspmx.l.google.com.
google.ca mail is handled by 20 alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.
google.ca mail is handled by 10 aspmx.l.google.com.
google.ca mail is handled by 40 alt3.aspmx.l.google.com.
BlackBox:~ jlixfeld$

That is not Google IPv4 address space, and those IPv4 IPs are not being
announced by 15169.

Am I dumb in thinking that this is weird or is this sort of thing
commonplace?




--
Steven J. Schecter
(m) 917.676.1646



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