Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

["Watson, Bob" <Bob.Watson () wwt com>]

Carrier oem churn (turnover /agitation cycles)
First mover for features happen and leapfrog but the ones that matter get adopted across the line in time.  


> On May 7, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Josh Reynolds <josh () spitwspots com> wrote:
>
> What churn rates are you talking about?
>
> Josh Reynolds
> CIO, SPITwSPOTS
> www.spitwspots.com
>
> > On 05/07/2015 05:36 PM, Watson, Bob wrote:
> > Many of these churn rates result from problems  self inflicted hence all the dramatic sdn promises, popularity in 
> > abstractions, Api all the things, let's go yang/netconf and retrofit every ietf standard.  There's benefits  but 
> > gotta rant a little. What's better than correct? Well over correct of course.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On May 7, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Josh Reynolds <josh () spitwspots com> wrote:
> > >
> > > You know where these people wouldn't fit? W/ISPs.
> > >
> > > Every three years or so you are forklifting the majority of your wireless PtMP for either a new series or a totally 
> > > different vendor. New backhaul vendors often. You're building AC and DC power plants. You likely touch Cisco, 
> > > juniper, HP, mikrotik, ubiquiti, Linux, windows, *BSD/pfsense, lucent, accedian/ciena, etc due to various client 
> > > and network requirements all in the same week, AND you have to make them work together nicely :)
> > >
> > > It's not the environment for somebody like that, and I truly don't understand how people of that.. "caliber" end up 
> > > working on large scale WANs and global transit networks.
> > >
> > > Frankly, it scares me a bit.
> > >
> > > > On May 7, 2015 9:07:35 AM AKDT, Craig <cvuljanic () gmail com> wrote:
> > > > we do "cry" when we interview people that claim to have "advanced
> > > > knowledge" of BGP and we ask them some very basic BGP questions, and we
> > > > get
> > > > a blank stare.....
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Rob Seastrom <rs () seastrom com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Josh Reynolds <josh () spitwspots com> writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so
> > > > > > worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one
> > > > > > thing about the big vendors that bothers me, it's that these
> > > > > > batteries of vendor specific tests have allowed many "techs" to get
> > > > > > lazy. They simply can't seem to operate well, if at all, in a
> > > > > > non-Cisco (primarily) environment.
> > > > > If that bothers you, I recommend you not look at what passes for a
> > > > > "system administrator" these days.  It will make you cry.
> > > > >
> > > > > -r
> > > -- 
> > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.