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Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality?
From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:58:17 +1100
In message <E24772E7-A95B-4866-9630-2B1023EBD4FD () delong com>, Owen DeLong write s:
On Nov 23, 2015, at 14:16 , Christopher Morrow<morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:Except thereâs no revenue share here. According to T-Mobile, thestreaming partnersarenât paying anything to T-Mo and T-Mo isnât paying them. Itâs kindof like zero-ratingin that the customers donât pay bandwidth charges, but itâs differentin that the serviceprovider isnât being asked to subsidize the network provider (usualimplementation ofzero-rating).equal exchange of value doesn't have to be dollars/pesos/euros changing hands right? -chrisSure, but I really donât think thereâs an exchange per se in this case, given that T-Mo is (at least apparently) willing to accommodate any streaming provider that wants to participate so long as they are willing to conform to a fairly basic set of technical criteria.
No. This is T-Mo saying they are neutral but not actually being so. This is like writing a job add for one particular person. Its just as easy to identify a UDP stream as it is a TCP stream. You can ratelimit a UDP stream as easily as a TCP stream. You can have congestion control over UDP as well as over TCP. Just because the base transport doesn't give you some of these and you have to implement them higher up the stack is no reason to throw out a transport. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka () isc org
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- Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality? Blake Hudson (Nov 20)
- Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality? Owen DeLong (Nov 23)
- Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality? Christopher Morrow (Nov 23)
- Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality? Owen DeLong (Nov 23)
- Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality? Mark Andrews (Nov 23)
- Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality? Owen DeLong (Nov 23)
- Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality? Baldur Norddahl (Nov 23)
- Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality? Owen DeLong (Nov 23)
- Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality? Mark Andrews (Nov 23)
- Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality? Keenan Tims (Nov 23)
- Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality? Mike Hammett (Nov 24)
- RE: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality? Tony Hain (Nov 26)
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