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Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality?


From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:58:17 +1100


In message <E24772E7-A95B-4866-9630-2B1023EBD4FD () delong com>, Owen DeLong write
s:

On Nov 23, 2015, at 14:16 , Christopher Morrow
<morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
Except there’s no revenue share here. According to T-Mobile, the
streaming partners
aren’t paying anything to T-Mo and T-Mo isn’t paying them. It’s kind
of like zero-rating
in that the customers don’t pay bandwidth charges, but it’s different
in that the service
provider isn’t being asked to subsidize the network provider (usual
implementation of
zero-rating).

equal exchange of value doesn't have to be dollars/pesos/euros
changing hands right?
-chris

Sure, but I really don’t think there’s an exchange per se in this case,
given that T-Mo
is (at least apparently) willing to accommodate any streaming provider
that wants to
participate so long as they are willing to conform to a fairly basic set
of technical criteria.

No. This is T-Mo saying they are neutral but not actually being so.
This is like writing a job add for one particular person.

Its just as easy to identify a UDP stream as it is a TCP stream.
You can ratelimit a UDP stream as easily as a TCP stream.  You can
have congestion control over UDP as well as over TCP.  Just because
the base transport doesn't give you some of these and you have to
implement them higher up the stack is no reason to throw out a
transport.

Mark

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