Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption

[Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com>]

On Saturday, October 3, 2015, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:

> The majority of the large eyeball providers in the US are already doing
> this to most, if not all, of their customers.
>
> Comcast I believe has 100% IPv6 availability to residential and I think
> they are most of the way on Business too.
>
> I’m not sure of the percentage, but I know Time Warner Cable is well
> underway with their IPv6 deployment.
>
> Even AT&T is making progress on their DSL and u-Verse services.
>
> Verizon FIOS is a laggard, which is interesting given that VZW was the
> first and still has the best Cellular IPv6 deployment in the US
>
> (IPv6 ONLY insisting on manufacturers implementing 464XLAT is inferior in
> every way to dual stack, so T-Mo loses and to the best of my knowledge,
> SPRINT still can’t spell IPv6 to save their life)
I believe the Samsung Galaxy 6 launched with ipv6 by default on all 4
national networks in the USA


I don’t think any of the MVNOs have any IPv6 capability yet.
> So the problem you are suggesting we focus on is mostly a solved problem.
> Content Providers are progressing, modulo some serious laggards, notably
> Amazon and a few others.
>
> The reality, however, is that in terms of deprecating IPv4, there does
> need to be a focus on consumer electronics, device support, home router
> support and it’s quite overdue. Fortunately, we’re finally starting to see
> some movement in that area.
>
> Owen
>
> > On Oct 2, 2015, at 07:27 , Steve Mikulasik <Steve.Mikulasik () civeo com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > I think more focus needs to be for carriers to deliver dual stack to
> their customers door step, whether they demand/use it or not. Small ISPs
> are probably in the best position to do this and will help push the big
> boys along with time. If we follow the network effect (reason why IPv4
> lives and IPv6 is slowly growing), IPv6 needs more nodes, all other efforts
> are meaningless if they do not result in more users having IPv6 delivered
> to their door.
> > I think people get too lost in the weeds when they start focusing on
> device support, home router support, user knowledge, etc. Just get it
> working to the people and we can figure out the rest later.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org <javascript:;>] On Behalf
> Of Mark Andrews
> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 6:01 PM
> > To: Matthew Newton <mcn4 () leicester ac uk <javascript:;>>
> > Cc: nanog () nanog org <javascript:;>
> > Subject: Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption
> >
> >
> > In message <20151001232613.GD123100 () rootmail cc le ac uk <javascript:;>>,
> Matthew Newton writes:
> > Additionally it is now a OLD addressing protocol.  We are about to see
> young adults that have never lived in a world without IPv6.  It may not
> have been universally available when they were born but it was available.
> There are definitely school leavers that have never lived in a world where
> IPv6 did not exist.  My daughter will be one of them next year when she
> finishes year 12.  IPv6 is 7 months older than she is.
> > Some of us have been running IPv6 in production for over a decade now
> and developing products that support IPv6 even longer.
> > We have had 17 years to build up a universal IPv6 network.  It should
> have been done by now.
> > Mark
> >
> > > --
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> > >
> > > Systems Specialist, Infrastructure Services, I.T. Services, University
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> > >
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