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Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption
From: Chuck Anderson <cra () WPI EDU>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 18:45:05 -0400
On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 08:28:13AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote:
In message <4F2E19BA-D92A-4BEC-86E2-33B405C307BE () delong com>, Owen DeLong writes:On Oct 1, 2015, at 13:55 , Grzegorz Janoszka <Grzegorz () Janoszka pl>wrote:On 2015-10-01 20:29, Owen DeLong wrote:However, I think eventually the residential ISPs are going to startcharging extrafor IPv4 service.ISP's will not charge too much. With too expensive IPv4 many customerswill migrate from v4/dual stack to v6-only and ISP's will be left with unused IPv4 addresses and less income. Nope… They’ll be left with unused IPv4 addresses which is not a significant source of income and they’ll be able to significantly reduce the costs incurred in supporting things like CGNAT.Will ISP's still find other profitable usage for v4 addresses? If not,they will be probably be quite slowly rising IPv4 pricing, not wanting to overprice it. Probably they will sell it to business customers instead of the residential customers. However, we’re talking about relatively large numbers of customers for relatively small numbers of IPv4 addresses that aren’t producing revenue directly at this time anyway.Even with $1/IPv4/month - what will be the ROI of a brand new homerouter? About 2.5 years at that price since a brand new home router is about $29. OwenThe hard part is the internet connected TV's and other stuff which fetches content over the internet which are IPv4 only despite being released when IPv6 existed. These are theoretically upgradable to support IPv6 so long as the manufactures release a IPv6 capable image. The real question is will governments force them to do this. Upgrading the router is a no brainer. Upgrading the TV, games consoles, e-readers, etc. starts to add up.
Just brand it as the new "6-D" TV with "128 bits of goodness to outperform your obsolete 32 bit TV!". Then people will flock to the stores to upgrade...
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- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption, (continued)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Ca By (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Matthew Kaufman (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Ca By (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Dovid Bender (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Todd Underwood (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Fred Baker (fred) (Oct 02)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption William Herrin (Oct 02)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Todd Underwood (Oct 02)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Fred Baker (fred) (Oct 02)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Owen DeLong (Oct 03)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Chuck Anderson (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Owen DeLong (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Peter Beckman (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption jungle Boogie (Oct 02)