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Re: Shared cabinet "security"


From: Greg Sowell <greg () gregsowell com>
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:16:17 -0600

Mike,

I've seen people use shelves to segregate cabinets.  I've seen some that
screw from both sides and eat very little space.

Greg
On Feb 13, 2016 8:07 AM, "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:

Getting a cabinet in someone else's datacenter (Equinix, Coresite, Telx,
etc.) and having sub-tenants. Most networks aren't going to need more than
a handful of U in a datacenter, but the more significant the datacenter,
the less likely they are to provide partial cabinets... which makes no
sense. Sure, some networks need large chassis routers chewing up 10U - 20U,
but there are far more networks that need routers that take up 1U, 2U,
something like that. For many networks, the sheer cost of the space in the
datacenter doubles their overall cost per megabit.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Midwest-IX
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----- Original Message -----

From: "Bevan Slattery" <bevan () slattery net au>
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>
Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog () nanog org>
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 2:36:34 AM
Subject: Re: Shared cabinet "security"


Sorry. I'm not sure I get from which angle you are coming at this from.
Happy to clarify for you and anyone interested if you can help me out here.


Cheers

[b]

On 13 Feb 2016, at 12:58 PM, Mike Hammett < nanog () ics-il net > wrote:





There are more options when you're not just using someone else's
datacenter.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com

----- Original Message -----

From: "Bevan Slattery" < bevan () slattery net au >
To: "Mike Hammett" < nanog () ics-il net >
Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" < nanog () nanog org >
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 4:44:34 PM
Subject: Re: Shared cabinet "security"

In a past life we worked with our supplier to create physically separate
sub-enclosures.1/2 and 1/3. Able to build in a separate and secure cable
path for interconnects to the meet-me-room and connection to power supplies.

Can be done and I think there are now rack suppliers that do this as
standard. Been out of DC space for a few years now.

[b]

On 13 Feb 2016, at 6:58 AM, Mike Hammett < nanog () ics-il net > wrote:


That moment when you hit send and remember a couple things…

Of course labeling of the cables.

Maybe colored wire loom for fiber and DACs in the vertical spaces to go
along with the previously mentioned color scheme?




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com

----- Original Message -----

From: "Mike Hammett" < nanog () ics-il net >
To: "North American Network Operators' Group" < nanog () nanog org >
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 2:53:17 PM
Subject: Re: Shared cabinet "security"


I am finding a bunch of covers for the front. I do wish they stuck out
more than an inch (like two).

http://www.middleatlantic.com/~/media/middleatlantic/documents/techdocs/s_sf%20series%20security%20covers_96-035/96_035s_sf.ashx

It looks like these guys stick out 1.5”. That may be workable…
http://www.lowellmfg.com/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/filemanager/files/1717-SSCV.pdf

I guess those covers are really only useful for servers. That really
wouldn’t work with a switch\router. Switches and routers are going to be
the bulk of what we’re dealing with.

I am finding locking power cables, but that seems to be specific to the
PDU you’re using as it requires the other half of the lock on the PDU.

I did come across colored power cords. I wonder with some enforced cable
management, colored power cables, etc. we would have “good enough”? You get
some 1U or 2U cable organizers, require cables to be secured to the
management, vertical cables in shared spaces are bound together by
customer, color of Velcro matches color of the power cord? Blue customer,
green customer, red customer, etc. Could do the cat6 patch cables that way
too, but that gets lost when moving to glass or DACs.

I thought about a web cam that would record anyone coming into the
cabinet, but Equinix doesn’t really allow pictures in their facilities, so
that’s not going to fly. Door contacts should be helpful for an audit log
of at least when the doors were opened or closed.

Financial penalty from the violator to the victim if there’s an uh oh?

I’m not trying to save someone from themselves. I’m not trying to lock
the whole thing down. Just trying to prevent mistakes in a shared space.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com

----- Original Message -----

From: "Mike Hammett" < nanog () ics-il net >
To: "North American Network Operators' Group" < nanog () nanog org >
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:59:08 AM
Subject: Shared cabinet "security"

I say "security" because I know that in a shared space, nothing is
completely secure. I also know that with enough intent, someone will
accomplish whatever they set out to do regarding breaking something of
someone else's. My concern is mainly towards mitigation of accidents. This
could even apply to a certain degree to things within your own space and
your own careless techs

If you have multiple entities in a shared space, how can you mitigate
the chances of someone doing something (assuming accidentally) to disrupt
your operations? I'm thinking accidentally unplug the wrong power cord,
patch cord, etc. Accidentally power off or reboot the wrong device.

Obviously labels are an easy way to point out to someone that's looking
at the right place at the right time. Some devices have a cage around the
power cord, but some do not.

Any sort of mesh panels you could put on the front\rear of your gear
that you would mount with the same rack screw that holds your gear in?




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com









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