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Re: Cogent & Google IPv6


From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:48:22 -0500

“Tier One” used to mean SFI or customer downstream to every prefix on the ‘Net. Today it is more like “transit free”, 
since some “tier one” providers have paid peering.

And Ricky is wrong, the vast majority of prefixes Cogent routes have zero dollars behind them. Cogent gets paid by 
customers, not peers. (At least not the big ones.)

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TTFN,
patrick

On Feb 24, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:

Isn't that how "Tier 1s" have always operated? Like, always? Customers or peers with peers subject to various 
requirements. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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Midwest-IX 
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----- Original Message -----

From: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam () gmail com> 
To: "Matt Hoppes" <mhoppes () indigowireless com> 
Cc: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:18:24 PM 
Subject: Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 

On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 14:46:56 -0500, Matt Hoppes 
<mhoppes () indigowireless com> wrote: 
Isn't that how the Internet is suppose to work? 

Perhaps. But that's not how *Cogent* works. They have a very idiotic view 
of "Tier 1". They have no transit connections with anyone; someone is 
paying them for every prefix they accept. 

Translation: No one in their right mind does business with Cogent. 


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