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Re: Cogent & Google IPv6
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:48:22 -0500
“Tier One” used to mean SFI or customer downstream to every prefix on the ‘Net. Today it is more like “transit free”, since some “tier one” providers have paid peering. And Ricky is wrong, the vast majority of prefixes Cogent routes have zero dollars behind them. Cogent gets paid by customers, not peers. (At least not the big ones.) -- TTFN, patrick
On Feb 24, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote: Isn't that how "Tier 1s" have always operated? Like, always? Customers or peers with peers subject to various requirements. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam () gmail com> To: "Matt Hoppes" <mhoppes () indigowireless com> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:18:24 PM Subject: Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 14:46:56 -0500, Matt Hoppes <mhoppes () indigowireless com> wrote:Isn't that how the Internet is suppose to work?Perhaps. But that's not how *Cogent* works. They have a very idiotic view of "Tier 1". They have no transit connections with anyone; someone is paying them for every prefix they accept. Translation: No one in their right mind does business with Cogent.
Current thread:
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6, (continued)
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 Constantine A. Murenin (Feb 25)
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 Baldur Norddahl (Feb 24)
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 Patrick W. Gilmore (Feb 24)
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 Mike Hammett (Feb 24)
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 Patrick W. Gilmore (Feb 24)
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 Mike Hammett (Feb 24)
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 Paras Jha (Feb 24)
- RE: Cogent & Google IPv6 Damien Burke (Feb 24)
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 Ricky Beam (Feb 24)
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 Mike Hammett (Feb 24)
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 Patrick W. Gilmore (Feb 24)
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 Ricky Beam (Feb 24)
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 Patrick W. Gilmore (Feb 24)
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 24)
- Re: Cogent & Google IPv6 Randy Bush (Feb 25)