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Re: Thank you, Comcast.
From: Maxwell Cole <mcole.mailinglists () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 09:18:50 -0500
I agree, At the very least things like SNMP/NTP should be blocked. I mean how many people actually run a legit NTP server out of their home? Dozens? And the people who run SNMP devices with the default/common communities aren’t the ones using it. If the argument is that you need a Business class account to run a mail server then I have no problem extending that to DNS servers also. Cheers, Max
On Feb 26, 2016, at 8:55 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se> wrote: On Fri, 26 Feb 2016, Nick Hilliard wrote:Traffic from dns-spoofing attacks generally has src port = 53 and dst port = random. If you block packets with udp src port=53 towards customers, you will also block legitimate return traffic if the customers run their own DNS servers or use opendns / google dns / etc.Sure, it's a very interesting discussion what ports should be blocked or not. http://www.bitag.org/documents/Port-Blocking.pdf This mentions on page 3.1, TCP(UDP)/25,135,139 and 445. They've been blocked for a very long time to fix some issues, even though there is legitimate use for these ports. So if you're blocking these ports, it seems like a small step to block UDP/TCP/53 towards customers as well. I can't come up with an argument that makes sense to block TCP/25 and then not block port UDP/TCP/53 as well. If you're protecting the Internet from your customers misconfiguraiton by blocking port 25 and the MS ports, why not 53 as well? This is a slippery slope of course, and judgement calls are not easy to make. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se
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- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Livingood, Jason (Feb 26)
- Consumer Equipment Sucks (Re: Thank you, Comcast.) Jared Mauch (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Chris Adams (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Dovid Bender (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Rich Kulawiec (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Brielle Bruns (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Anthony Junk (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Roland Dobbins (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Roland Dobbins (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Mikael Abrahamsson (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Maxwell Cole (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Jared Mauch (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Damian Menscher via NANOG (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Roland Dobbins (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Dovid Bender (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Jared Mauch (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Damian Menscher via NANOG (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Dovid Bender (Feb 26)
- Re[2]: Thank you, Comcast. Adam (Feb 26)
- RE: Thank you, Comcast. Keith Medcalf (Feb 26)
- Re: Thank you, Comcast. Livingood, Jason (Feb 26)