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Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ]
From: Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 19:44:06 +0100
On 12 January 2016 at 19:03, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
As an alternative to the plan that Owen describes, I can offer the way we did it: Our IPv6 address plan is tied to our IPv4 addressing, such that there is a mapping from IPv4 address to IPv6 /48 prefix. That way we donotneed to allocate IPv6 as such.How do you expect that to work out when you have customers without IPv4 addresses or once you start having to share IPv4 addresses among customers?
I fear I will be retired before the first happens. As to the second, even with CGN they will have an internal IPv4 that can be used for the mapping. Please also take notice that there is nothing that prevents you from reversing the mapping: assign /48 to customers and then calculate the IPv4 from that. The point here is just that you do not really need to do the work twice. The limitation of the system is that it requires a dense scheme for allocating /48 to customers. Unfortunately that is already a requirement in RIPE land, so it does not add something new.
Your address plan ties your future to your legacy technology that you should be looking forward to deprecating and places limitations on your future addressing that are coupled to the shortcomings of the legacy addressing capabilities.
I would say it saves you from doing a lot of work. It will be a long time before you can skip the IPv4 part entirely and just do IPv6. The exception being if you use certain transition technologies that tunnels IPv4 on top of an IPv6 only network, in which case I would probably do something different (or maybe not). My scheme works for our network, which uses L3VPN and MPLS.
I encourage my competitors to attempt this strategy.
I do not believe we have ever been competitors... Regards, Baldur
Current thread:
- RE: Best Source for ARIN Region /24, (continued)
- RE: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 Shon Elliott (Jan 11)
- Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ] Hugo Slabbert (Jan 11)
- RE: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ] Shon Elliott (Jan 11)
- Re: RE: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ] Hugo Slabbert (Jan 11)
- Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ] Massimiliano Stucchi (Jan 12)
- RE: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 Shon Elliott (Jan 11)
- Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ] Owen DeLong (Jan 11)
- Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ] Baldur Norddahl (Jan 12)
- Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ] Bjørn Mork (Jan 12)
- Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ] Baldur Norddahl (Jan 12)
- Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ] Owen DeLong (Jan 12)
- Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ] Baldur Norddahl (Jan 12)
- Re: Deploying IPv6 in an ISP network [ was: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 ] Owen DeLong (Jan 12)
- Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 Matthew D. Hardeman (Jan 11)
- Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 Rafael Possamai (Jan 11)
- Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 Martin Hannigan (Jan 12)
- Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 Owen DeLong (Jan 12)
- Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 Jim Mercer (Jan 12)
- Re: Best Source for ARIN Region /24 Jake Mertel (Jan 12)