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Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:04:44 -0800
Sadly, the law firms with big routers seem to prefer a regulatory environment that they can manipulate, so it’s a tough situation to achieve a good outcome. They are the ones that are blocking the industry from arriving at a good outcome without regulation and they will likely be the ones driving regulation in ridiculous directions away from good outcomes once we start to see regulation. The way lawyers redefine terms and obfuscate to make regulations say what they want instead of what any normal person would think they actually say is truly impressive. Owen
On Jan 28, 2016, at 18:01 , Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote: Nothing says a better Internet than one the government pokes their nose around in. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Herrin" <bill () herrin us> To: "Randy Bush" <randy () psg com> Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:25:47 PM Subject: Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:folk can rant on nanog all they want if it makes them feel good or self-righteous.Hi Randy, It DOES make me feel good. And a little self-righteous.won't change a damned thing.Some FCC employees read this forum. My impression is that they're not terribly far from concluding that closed peering policies are anti-competitive. When I have such impressions I'm usually off by years. Still, it would be nice if just once an industry cleaned itself up -before- regulators forced the issue. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
Current thread:
- Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it, (continued)
- Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it Brandon Butterworth (Jan 22)
- Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it Måns Nilsson (Jan 27)
- Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it Owen DeLong (Jan 27)
- Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it Mark Tinka (Jan 27)
- Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it Owen DeLong (Jan 28)
- Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it Mark Tinka (Jan 28)
- Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it Måns Nilsson (Jan 27)
- Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it Måns Nilsson (Jan 28)
- Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it Randy Bush (Jan 28)
- Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it William Herrin (Jan 28)
- Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it Mike Hammett (Jan 28)
- Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it Owen DeLong (Jan 28)
- Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it Brandon Butterworth (Jan 22)