Re: ISP License in the USA?

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Finnesey" <ryan () finnesey com>
> To: "Eric Flanery (eric)" <eric () flanery us>
> Cc: "nanog list" <nanog () nanog org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 12:31:56 PM
> Subject: RE: ISP License in the USA?

> Would you mind sharing some of the telecommunications focused law firms?  I am
> about to start a company that is going back into the CLEC/ISP/VoIP Business and
> I am going to have to establish relationships with a few law firms.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Eric Flanery (eric)
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 2:55 PM
> Cc: NANOG list <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: ISP License in the USA?
>
> There is no such thing as an 'ISP license' in the US. I have a hard time
> imagining Texas of all places would have such a requirement.
>
> Depending on what exactly you are doing, there are various and highly varied
> requirements, such as acquiring a SPIN number for E-Rate, filing FCC
> 477 if you do broadband, FCC 499 if you do VoIP (CLEC and ETC also apply there),
> a FRN if you do pretty much anything FCC-related, various sorts of licenses for
> most radio/microwave systems (excepting part 15 stuff), CALEA, open internet,
> etc...
>
> COALS _could_ apply _if_ you are running a cable TV system that also delivers
> data services, but it isn't an 'ISP thing'.
>
> More to the point...
>
> I wouldn't take US legal advice from any consultant not familiar with US law, or
> really any non-lawyer consultant at all. I wouldn't take it from NANOG either;
> while it's a tremendous technical resource, it is not your attorney.
>
> There are a number of telecommunications focused law firms out there, with
> knowledgeable lawyers. It would be a good idea to establish a relationship with
> one, if you intend to enter the increasingly complex legal minefield of being
> an ISP.
>
> --Eric
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Dan White <dwhite () olp net> wrote:
>
> > Not familiar with the process, but look at E-rate if you want to
> > provide service to schools, libraries and health providers.
> >
> >
> > On 05/31/16 13:14 -0500, Lorell Hathcock wrote:
> >
> > > NANOG:
> > >
> > > Our owner has hired a consultant who insists that we should have an
> > > ISP license to operate in the United States.  (Like they have in
> > > other countries like Germany and in Africa where he has extensive
> > > personal experience.)
> > >
> > > I am asking him to tell me which license we should have because I
> > > don't know of a license that we are required to have to route IP
> > > traffic to end customers.
> > >
> > > I am familiar with CLEC status filed with our state.  But it is not a
> > > requirement to pass traffic.
> > >
> > > He is suggesting COALS with which I am completely unfamiliar.
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me if there is a Texas state and/or USA Federal
> > > license for a small operator to pass IP traffic from the internet to
> > > end users (commercial and/or residential).
> > >
> > > I am aware that there are some CALEA requirements of ISPs that seem
> > > to kick in once a CALEA request is made, but is that different from a
> > > license.
> >
> > --
> > Dan White
> > BTC Broadband