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Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed
From: Spencer Ryan <sryan () arbor net>
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 19:53:49 -0400
Another question: what benefit does one get from having a HE tunnel broker
connection? Is it just geek points, or is there a practical benefit too? We used them to use our own (ARIN) IP space before we had connections in all sites that we could BGP to the carriers, this allowed us to avoid renumbering down the road. This used the BGP Tunnelbroker service though and we announced our own /44 le 48 blocks. *Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sryan () arbor net *Arbor Networks* +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m) www.arbornetworks.com On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 7:45 PM, Damian Menscher <menscher () gmail com> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Laszlo Hanyecz <laszlo () heliacal net> wrote:On 2016-06-05 22:48, Damian Menscher wrote:What *is* standard about them? My earliest training as a sysadmintaughtme that any time you switch away from a default setting, you'reventuringinto the unknown. Your config is no longer well-tested; you may experience strange errors; nobody else will have seen the same bugs. That's exactly what's happening here -- people are setting up IPv6tunnelbroker connections, then complaining that there are unexpected side effects.There are a lot of non technical Netflix users who are being told to turn off IPv6, switch ISPs, get a new VPN, etc. because Netflix has a broken system. Those users don't care what IPv6 is, they just learn that it'sbadbecause it breaks Netflix. Most users have no way to change these things and they just aren't going to be able to use Netflix anymore.Who are these non-technical Netflix users who accidentally stumbled into having a HE tunnel broker connection without their knowledge? I wasn't aware this sort of thing could happen without user consent, and would like to know if I'm wrong. Only thing I can imagine is if ISPs are using HE as a form of CGN. Another question: what benefit does one get from having a HE tunnel broker connection? Is it just geek points, or is there a practical benefit too? Damian
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- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Baldur Norddahl (Jun 06)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Mark Felder (Jun 07)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Damian Menscher (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Christopher Morrow (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Livingood, Jason (Jun 06)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Chris Baker (Jun 06)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Laszlo Hanyecz (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Spencer Ryan (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Mark Andrews (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Damian Menscher (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Spencer Ryan (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Mark Andrews (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Laszlo Hanyecz (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Christopher Morrow (Jun 05)
- Re: HE tunnels, was Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed John Levine (Jun 05)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Mark Tinka (Jun 06)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Scott Morizot (Jun 06)
- RE: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Matthew Huff (Jun 06)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Spencer Ryan (Jun 06)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed John Peach (Jun 06)
- Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed Mark Felder (Jun 06)