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Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
From: Randy Bush <randy () psg com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 02:49:28 +0900
A possible PC revision could have been 1) add more flavor of dominate US IXP's (of all organization structures) - as that geographical focus makes more sense for NANOG 2) don't list specific organizations by name, but instead just list their organization structure and a random identifier.
< rant > pablum nog. you are pandering to vendors to keep attendee costs down so you can have a high attendee count most of whom are sales folk. what can possibly go wrong? the pc be should have at least two talks including the unvarnished truth about specific named vendors, and at least one talk must be about a 'sponsor', whatever the hell that is and why it is needed. different ones every time, it is a target rich environment. the O in nanog is operator, not sponsor, panderer, suck up, ... we're spending millions for half debugged underperforming crap and we are cornered by infrastructure providers (e.g. ixps) who run us over time and again if it makes an extra penny. if you tell the vendors the truth, the real vendor engineers can go home and explain why they need management support to fix things. the truth makes us all free. randy
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- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?, (continued)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Niels Bakker (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Adam Rothschild (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Phil Rosenthal (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Eric Kuhnke (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mike Hammett (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mark Tinka (Jun 19)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Zbyněk Pospíchal (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mike Hammett (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Matt Peterson (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Daniel Golding (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Randy Bush (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Paul WALL (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Hank Nussbacher (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Randy Bush (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Leo Bicknell (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Bryan Fields (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Randy Bush (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? William Herrin (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Daniel Golding (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? William Herrin (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Owen DeLong (Jun 14)