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Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
From: Job Snijders <job () instituut net>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 17:55:52 -0500
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 03:52:02PM +0200, Nurani Nimpuno wrote:
A growing exchange point is not only a "nice-to-have" for those operating it, but vital to those networks who peer there. If you stop adding value to those networks peering at the IX, you will slowly become irrelevant.
I view this differently: an IXP that does not grow, still provides value to the existing members/customers. The value is not growth itself, just like the amount of connected networks is not a metric for value, but a metric for the potential of value. The value an IXP brings can be defined as the delta between what it would cost to 'do it yourself' and run everything over private peering and using a public internet exchange. And this definition of value is underlined by the fact that a "public to private" lifecycle exists.
We work in a similar way with our pricing. (You mention that there is a lot of negotiations on pricing with IXPs.) I would like to be 100% clear that for the Netnod IX, we don’t negotiate or give “sweet deals” to anyone. We publish our fee schedule and we stick to it.
This is an admirable quality. I believe an IXP is most successful when it presents a level playing field. Hope you never change this :) Kind regards, Job
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- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?, (continued)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Nick Hilliard (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Dave Temkin (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Nick Hilliard (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Dave Temkin (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Nick Hilliard (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mike Hammett (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Nurani Nimpuno (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Dave Temkin (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Tom Hill (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Nurani Nimpuno (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Job Snijders (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Baldur Norddahl (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Dave Temkin (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Baldur Norddahl (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Dave Temkin (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Fredrik Korsbäck (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Arnold Nipper (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Daniel Golding (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Rick Astley (Jun 30)