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Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:16:18 -0500
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 7:40 AM, Jon Lewis <jlewis () lewis org> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2016, William Herrin wrote:It's Cogent's fault because: double-billing. Google should not have to pay Cogent for a service which you have already paid Cogent to provide to you. Cogent's demand is unethical. They intentionally fail to deliver on the basic service expectation you pay them for and refuse to do so unless a third party to your contract also pays them.That's one way of looking at it. However, which of your transits don't bill for bits exchanged with other customers of theirs...and how are they or you accounting for that traffic?
Hi Jon, As you know, there is a technology limitation in how routing works which says that for any given block of addresses you can, absent extraordinary measures, have a peering relationship or a transit relationship but not both. If both parties choose to have a transit relationship, that excludes a peering relationship for the relevant blocks of addresses. And that's OK when _both sides_ choose it. In related news, no ethical conundrum demands defiance of the law of gravity. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
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- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun, (continued)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Mark Andrews (Mar 10)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Matthew D. Hardeman (Mar 10)
- RE: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Robert Jacobs (Mar 11)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Christopher Morrow (Mar 11)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Jay Hennigan (Mar 18)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Jay R. Ashworth (Mar 11)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Fredy Kuenzler (Mar 10)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Matthew D. Hardeman (Mar 10)
- Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Randy Bush (Mar 11)
- Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Jon Lewis (Mar 11)
- Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun William Herrin (Mar 11)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Owen DeLong (Mar 11)
- Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Dave Bell (Mar 11)
- Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Mikael Abrahamsson (Mar 11)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Owen DeLong (Mar 11)
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- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Mark Tinka (Mar 10)
- RE: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Damien Burke (Mar 11)
- RE: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Dennis Burgess (Mar 13)
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- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Matthew Kaufman (Mar 13)