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Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers


From: Peter Kristolaitis <alter3d () alter3d ca>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:23:25 -0500



On 2016-03-11 04:40 PM, Scott Weeks wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Sean Donelan

The U.S. government definition of data center is a bit like defining
a warehouse as any room containing a single ream of paper.  Yes,
warehouses are used to store reams of paper; but that doesn't make
every place containing a ream of paper a warehouse.
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--- Steve.Mikulasik () civeo com wrote:

This is a great way to create a mess of rules. Need a server
for running an app locally to a site? You need XYZ standards
that make no sense for your deploy and increase the cost by
10 times.

Our server guys always try to set standards, then they run
into a deploy where the needs are simple, but the standards
make it significantly uneconomical.
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Been there, done that, got many t-shirts.  There is no thought
at all to economics.  None.  People that have absolutely no
experience in networking or computers (read: can barely operate
M$ computers) make these rules/definitions/processes.  It's not
even sausage when they're done.  It's post-digested sausage.
For example, read about the OPM fiasco:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management_data_breach

I'm one of those 21.5 million people.  Fingerprints, SSN,
address, etc, etc, etc.


scott

I disagree. Government departments are heavily concerned about economics. Specifically, "how can we maintain, or preferably increase, our budget in the next fiscal cycle?" If that means feeding 500 lbs of pork to a chihuahua so you can burn up this year's budget, then so be it. Next year you can ask for extra money to put the chihuahua on a special, extremely expensive diet while simultaneously asking for more pork to enrich its diet.


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