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Re: IoT security, was Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network


From: "John R. Levine" <johnl () iecc com>
Date: 9 Oct 2016 10:02:50 -0400

On Sun, 9 Oct 2016, Florian Weimer wrote:

If we want to make consumers to make informed decisions, they need to
learn how things work up to a certain level.  And then current
technology already works.

I think it's fair to say that security through consumer education has been a failure every time anyone has tried it. Why do you think this would be any different?

There is little interest in this, however.  There's a comparable
business case for providing managed PCs to consumers, and I'm not sure
if any such companies are still left.

There's at least two large ones: Microsoft and Apple. Try installing Windows 10 without letting Microsoft update and reconfigure the software any time they want, any way they want.

Expecting consumers to evaluate the security behavior of their lightbulbs and their refrigerator is absurd. We need to figure out how to have the devices and routers configure themselves so the devices can do what they need to do without doing what we really don't want them to do.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl () iecc com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly


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