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Re: Dyn DDoS this AM?
From: Ken Chase <math () sizone org>
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 11:23:43 -0400
(Inband signalling - bad except for BGP?) General comment: why are we blaming the client devices for the lack of security? This is like Microsoft villifying linux in the late 90s because "there's no restrictions on use or packet crafting on the client side" - of course there isn't, in Windows either -- cant trust the client side, ever. Check out online gaming, so many h4x 'n bots. Let's stop trying to fix the clients, there'll always be bad actors/crappy coding. Let's fix the networks. Pay-to-play? People are sensitive in the pocketbooks. NetCoin or something to purchase dataflows? I dont know. Also sounds terrible. ("That's an internet tax!!!111"). But Something Must Be Done[tm], by us, soon, or we'll be dealing with govt cures which will be worse than the disease. Regulating devices will never happen. Have you checked out world trade regulations? The US can't get Chinese firms to stop shipping deadly-to-the-touch chemwep/drug carfentanil, how we gonna enforce security standards on COTS electronics? (More govt soln's/approvals too. Fear.) We have control of the networks. Lets do something. (cant find the carfentanil story on nytimes anymore, pulled? http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/10/07/world/asia/ap-as-china-chemical-weapons.html ) /kc On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 04:54:47PM +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson said: >On Sat, 22 Oct 2016, Alexander Maassen wrote: > >>Remember ping packets containing +++ATH0 ? > >THat only worked because of patents: > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Independent_Escape_Sequence > >Inband signaling is bad, mmmkay? > >-- >Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se -- Ken Chase - Guelph Canada
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- Re: Dyn DDoS this AM?, (continued)
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- Re: Dyn DDoS this AM? Måns Nilsson (Oct 21)
- Re: Dyn DDoS this AM? Crist Clark (Oct 21)
- Re: Dyn DDoS this AM? Brett Frankenberger (Oct 21)
- Re: Dyn DDoS this AM? Josh Reynolds (Oct 21)
- Re: Dyn DDoS this AM? Josh Reynolds (Oct 21)
- Re: Dyn DDoS this AM? - dns alvin nanog (Oct 21)
- Re: Dyn DDoS this AM? Mikael Abrahamsson (Oct 22)
- Re: Dyn DDoS this AM? Ken Chase (Oct 22)