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Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM
From: Grant Taylor via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 14:07:33 -0700
On 11/30/2017 12:16 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
it’s a rather large PITA for a small site with an admin that needs to count on most things running on autopilot most of the time in order to survive.
I have to disagree with that.I've been running SpamAssassin for > 15 years and have found it to be mostly trouble free. - I have cron jobs update it's files and rely on milters to accept / tag / reject messages. - I spend very little time caring for / feeding SpamAssassin. Probably < 5 minutes a month.)
Sure, I occasionally fiddle with things, but that's because I want to, not because I need to.
So, while it might be a higher-quality solution, I’d argue that it’s not completely “better” in that any autopilotable configuration of it involves a high degree of false negatives or an unacceptable level of false positives.
I've had fairly good luck with autopilot. I also don't see many false negatives. Nor do people report false positives to me. (Granted, I tag at 5 and reject at 15.)
People who want to be malicious are usually less willing to do so if they know that they will be identified, so actually, it does help.
Agreed. -- Grant. . . . unix || die
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- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM, (continued)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Grant Taylor via NANOG (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Bjørn Mork (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Rich Kulawiec (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Steve Atkins (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Bjørn Mork (Dec 01)
- RE: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Keith Medcalf (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Owen DeLong (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Owen DeLong (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM John Levine (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Owen DeLong (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Grant Taylor via NANOG (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM John R. Levine (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM valdis . kletnieks (Dec 01)
- Re: Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Owen DeLong (Dec 01)
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- Re: lists and DMARC and ARC, was Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM valdis . kletnieks (Dec 01)
- Re: lists and DMARC and ARC, was Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Michael Thomas (Dec 01)
- Re: lists and DMARC and ARC, was Incoming SMTP in the year 2017 and absence of DKIM Grant Taylor via NANOG (Dec 01)