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Re: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders
From: Ken Chase <math () sizone org>
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:07:11 -0500
Just meant it as a parallel operational example. Both situations, while legally distinct, present the same operational issues. Purposely breaking things - and then being required to keep the breakage secret - is going to mess up a whole lot of things. (How does Chinese operators handle this?) Additionally the snooping is an issue, though I can't imagine anyone depends on an IX for maintaining secrecy at a contract level :/ Today's realities. /kc On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:03:00AM -0600, Mike Hammett said: >I'm not sure Cogent is on any IXes? > > > > >----- >Mike Hammett >Intelligent Computing Solutions >http://www.ics-il.com > >Midwest-IX >http://www.midwest-ix.com > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ken Chase" <math () sizone org> >To: nanog () nanog org >Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 9:56:23 AM >Subject: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders > >And when you go to figure out why that IP wont ping through Cogent on >your exchange, and start troubleshooting but can't get any answers >as to why things are bust... > >[ Clearly now an operational issue for NANOG. ] > >Purposely breaking routing and not being able to talk about why is going to >set many orgs at odds with their basic operational charters. I expect that >a paid service will work when it's provided, including help debugging their end. > >This is slightly different from a service provider, ostensibly you can >go elsewhere to get service - but when you are a member of a nonprofit *IX >(as we are with TorIX), things get a lot more complex. > >I imagine contract lawyers are going to be all over this. > >https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/17/linx_snoopers_charger_gagging_order/ > >(their typo in the url) > /kc -- Ken Chase - math () sizone org Guelph/Toronto Canada
Current thread:
- gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders Ken Chase (Feb 17)
- Re: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders Mike Hammett (Feb 17)
- Re: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders Ken Chase (Feb 17)
- Re: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders Patrick W. Gilmore (Feb 17)
- Re: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders William Waites (Feb 17)
- Re: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders Brandon Butterworth (Feb 17)
- Re: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders Christian de Larrinaga (Feb 17)
- Re: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders Ken Chase (Feb 17)
- Re: gagging *IX directors re snoop/block orders Mike Hammett (Feb 17)