Re: Common Reliable Out Of Band Management Options at Carrier Hotels

[Luke Guillory <lguillory () reservetele com>]

Cell site has one network in and out, that being the providers own network.

This data center has many transit providers blended into their DIA while I might only have two at the location.

While cell sites in larger cities might be in better shape than down here in the south, I've seen way to many go down 
around here from storms.

What's makes ATT LTE network different from the ATT transit network that sits in the datacenter? While it gives me 
access to a network outside the datacenter it seems to limit me to only one network.






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On Jan 18, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick () ianai net<mailto:patrick () ianai net>> wrote:

That is a good price, and a nice service from the provider.

However, why is that more diverse than LTE? If the colo provider uses the same transit and/or transit provider(s) you 
do, it sounds very not-diverse.

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TTFN,
patrick

On Jan 18, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Luke Guillory <lguillory () reservetele com<mailto:lguillory () reservetele com>> wrote:

We were quoted sub $200 for 10M DIA from the datacenter which included a copper handoff which would be more diverse 
than the cell option.



Luke





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-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Patrick W. Gilmore
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 9:13 AM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Common Reliable Out Of Band Management Options at Carrier Hotels

+1 for OpenGear + LTE / cell.

Obviously POTS works and is available in any carrier hotel and not insanely expensive.

Also, lots (not all) colocation providers will give you very cheap ethernet OOB. (E.g. Our colo gives you GigE for the 
cost of the xconn + 2 Mbps 95/5 free.) I would ask before looking at getting a 3G/4G modem. Assuming, of course, you 
are comfortable with the colo provider’s network being diverse enough from your own.

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TTFN,
patrick

On Jan 18, 2017, at 8:55 AM, David Hubbard <dhubbard () dino hostasaurus com<mailto:dhubbard () dino hostasaurus com>> 
wrote:

Provided you can get a cell signal, we’ve been very happy with Opengear boxes.  We’d been using their ACM5508 which is 
eight serial ports, two Ethernet, cell.  It runs linux, you can ssh into it, do fancy things like keep the cell side 
down and use text messages to bring it up if you need to get in, does VPN, PPTP, monitors environmental things if 
needed, etc.  They replaced that model with the 7004 and 7008 (4 or 8 serial).  They have console servers if you need 
more ports; we have a 32-port daisy chained to a 5508 in a location we had serial growth, but their 7200-series is cell 
plus high density serial in one.

In a data center with particularly bad cell reception, Opengear recommended getting a high gain antenna from 
wpsantennas.com<http://wpsantennas.com>.  I contacted them and the recommendation for my specific use case was a 
Panorama WMMG-7-27.  We had it mounted above the overhead infrastructure on top of our cage and it dramatically 
improved the signal to make it a non-issue.

David

On 1/17/17, 4:59 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Darin Herteen" <nanog-bounces () nanog org<mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org> 
on behalf of synack () live com<mailto:synack () live com>> wrote:

 Greetings list,


 We are exploring standardizing our Out Of Band options across our network and various off-net locations and the 
question was brought up "What about carrier hotels? What constraints might present themselves at those locations?"


 Assuming each hotel we are located in can provide either Ethernet or DSL I'm guessing that is going to come a cost 
(cross-connects, rack space etc..) that might end up being cost prohibitive.


 So my inquiry is... What does the list find to be a reasonably priced yet reliable solution in carrier hotels for OOB? 
Or is that contradictory :)


 Thoughts on Cellular?


 Any experience/insight would be appreciated.


 Thanks,


 Darin