Re: Calgary <-> Toronto 100% Canadian Fibre Resiliency on failover

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

I believe when I've looked into it before, UP required your utility to be at the far outside edge of their ROW, so not 
really close to the track. 




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Mike Hammett 
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----- Original Message -----

From: "Joe Abley" <jabley () hopcount ca> 
To: "Steve Naslund" <SNaslund () medline com> 
Cc: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 1:40:59 PM 
Subject: Re: Calgary <-> Toronto 100% Canadian Fibre Resiliency on failover 

On 2 Nov 2017, at 09:25, Naslund, Steve <SNaslund () medline com> wrote: 

> There are four facts to be aware of here. 
>
> 1. Locators are not 100% especially when it comes to fiber. 

I remember years ago in New Zealand there was buried fibre along the railway running north-south in the North Island 
that was not generally anybody's first choice of glass when trying to connect sites in Auckland and Wellington. The 
problem I heard described (from memory, long time ago, I am old) was that the natural vibration of the ground due to 
trains on rails had the effect over time of pushing conduit down the embankment away from the track, leading to fibre 
breaks with no corresponding obvious cause (no digging). 

You could bounce signals down the copper in the conduit from either side to try and figure out where the break was, but 
once on site you still had to find the fibre which was usually not anywhere close to where the map said it was buried. 


Joe