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Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada
From: Geoff Huston <gih () apnic net>
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 09:38:20 +1100
On 3 Oct 2017, at 7:17 am, Eric Dugas <edugas () unknowndevice ca> wrote: For some reason my previous email was empty. What I wrote: "Some of these numbers are largely inflated... e.g. Teksavvy at 937,855 estimated users. How can they have 937,855 users if they "only" have 686,848 IPv4 (https://bgp.he.net/AS5645)? Also, Allstream/Zayo AS15290 has a lot of IPs but it's mostly corps/govs. So it's a mix of inflated and false positives.
I wish there was better public data we could use here to generate these numbers. But there is a dearth of such numbers that are vaguely current relatively inclusive and not completely stupid. So we use the ad placement mechanism as an indirect pointer to user count. Its very rough, and at best one can say that there are large, medium and small eyeball networks, and to a first order the algorithm appears to identify networks into these three categories. I am not trying to tie in address density here - I’m not even sure that would be wise because, as you well know, NATs hide all kinds of sins and virtues. Geoff
Current thread:
- Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada Jacques Latour (Oct 02)
- Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada Stephen Fulton (Oct 02)
- Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada Eric Dugas (Oct 02)
- Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada Filip Hruska (Oct 02)
- Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada Eric Dugas (Oct 02)
- Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada Harald Koch (Oct 02)
- RE: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada Jacques Latour (Oct 02)
- Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada Geoff Huston (Oct 02)
- Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada Radu-Adrian Feurdean (Oct 11)
- Re: Question about Customer Population by ASN for Canada Stephen Fulton (Oct 02)