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Re: 100G QSFP28 DAC cables - experience
From: Tyler Conrad <tyler () tgconrad com>
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:12:29 -0500
We're using a mix as well, some QSFP28 AOC, others DAC. One thing that you need to keep in mind about the DACs is going to be the bend radius. These things are girthy af, so make sure to either overestimate your runs slightly, or buy one to test first. On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Hugo Slabbert <hugo () slabnet com> wrote:
On Wed 2017-Sep-06 09:17:39 +0200, Jiri Prochazka <jiri () cdn77 com> wrote: Hi folks,I'm wondering if anyone have (either positive or negative) experience with 100G QSFP28 DAC cables? Is there anyone who is using 100G DAC in large scale and would recommend it (which means there are no issues compared to SR4 links)? I'm thinking about cables with lenght up to 1m, not more. We have had quite bad experience with 10G DAC in the past - but I do not want to be slave of the past. Thank you for your thoughts! JiriWe're deploying a decent chunk of 100G QSFP28 at the moment, but it's a mix of: - a handful of 100G QSFP28 copper DACs for some switch peerlinks - a bit >100x 100G QSFP28 AOC for interswitch links - a lot more 100G QSFP28 -> 4x25G SFP28 copper breakouts We're only a few weeks in at this point, so mileage may vary in the long run etc. The copper peerlinks are mostly 1M with some 3M. We've had no issues with them so far. The AOC interswitch links vary more in length, but some of those are >10M (hence AOC rather than copper). We've faced no issues with those. Granted, there is BGP with BFD running across those, so those should help in terms of liveness checks and such. I mention that because where we _have_ had issues are on the 100G -> 4x25G copper breakouts. Those are for 25G edge connectivity. It's a decent sample size with a bit north of 600x 25G ports. The trouble we've had there have been with some links showing link up on the switch and server side but actually failing to pass any traffic, so we need to stuff some >L1 liveness checks on there to ensure those links are good while we sort out the root issue. It is not yet clear if this is a cable fault, driver issue, or something firmware-ish on the NICs. Also, fun fact: 25G only made its way into the 802.3ad bonding mode driver in the Linux kernel in March this year[1]. -- Hugo Slabbert | email, xmpp/jabber: hugo () slabnet com pgp key: B178313E | also on Signal [1]https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/ linux.git/commit/?id=19ddde1eeca1ee81f4add5e04da66055e09281ac
Current thread:
- 100G QSFP28 DAC cables - experience Jiri Prochazka (Sep 14)
- Re: 100G QSFP28 DAC cables - experience Hugo Slabbert (Sep 14)
- Re: 100G QSFP28 DAC cables - experience Tyler Conrad (Sep 14)
- Re: 100G QSFP28 DAC cables - experience Brant Ian Stevens (Sep 14)
- RE: 100G QSFP28 DAC cables - experience Jameson, Daniel (Sep 14)
- RE: 100G QSFP28 DAC cables - experience Naslund, Steve (Sep 14)
- Re: 100G QSFP28 DAC cables - experience Tyler Conrad (Sep 14)
- Re: 100G QSFP28 DAC cables - experience Hugo Slabbert (Sep 14)