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Re: Has Level3 done away with traceroute??


From: Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:57:51 +0000

I am able to traceroute in and out of Level3, but it seems like some L3 internal hops are missing, as I appear to go 
straight from the L3 edge router to my L3 customer agg router:

traceroute to 206.83.0.42 (206.83.0.42), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  47.155.227.1 (47.155.227.1)  4.318 ms  4.661 ms  4.715 ms
 2  172.102.107.166 (172.102.107.166)  10.202 ms  7.521 ms
    172.102.102.240 (172.102.102.240)  7.240 ms
 3  ae8---0.scr02.lsan.ca.frontiernet.net (74.40.3.49)  9.609 ms  7.501 ms
    ae8---0.scr01.lsan.ca.frontiernet.net (74.40.3.37)  5.298 ms
 4  ae0---0.cbr01.lsan.ca.frontiernet.net (74.40.3.198)  7.169 ms  7.015 ms  7.277 ms
 5  * * *
 6  ae-4-90.edge1.losangeles9.level3.net (4.69.144.202)  8.384 ms  7.012 ms
    ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles9.level3.net (4.69.144.74)  9.865 ms
 7  ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles9.level3.net (4.69.144.74)  7.471 ms
    ae-3-80.edge1.losangeles9.level3.net (4.69.144.138)  6.551 ms
    ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles9.level3.net (4.69.144.74)  10.520 ms
 8  4.68.111.22 (4.68.111.22)  9.010 ms  7.445 ms  7.314 ms
 9  sba1-ar1-xe-11-0-0-0.us.twtelecom.net (35.248.2.6)  9.788 ms  9.536 ms  10.266 ms
10  206-190-77-10.static.twtelecom.net (206.190.77.10)  14.739 ms  12.525 ms  9.979 ms
11  iris1.jet.net (206.83.0.42)  10.285 ms  9.880 ms  10.063 ms

traceroute to 47.155.227.1 (47.155.227.1), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  router1.sb.becknet.com (206.83.0.1)  1.270 ms  1.023 ms  0.352 ms
 2  206-190-77-9.static.twtelecom.net (206.190.77.9)  0.799 ms  0.741 ms  0.785 ms
 3  ae1-90g.ar7.lax1.gblx.net (67.17.75.18)  3.052 ms  3.126 ms  2.957 ms
 4  ae10.edge1.losangeles9.level3.net (4.68.111.21)  3.456 ms  3.043 ms  2.981 ms
 5  * * *
 6  4.16.30.130 (4.16.30.130)  27.564 ms  3.574 ms  3.445 ms
 7  ae1---0.scr02.lsan.ca.frontiernet.net (74.40.3.213)  3.489 ms ae1---0.scr01.lsan.ca.frontiernet.net (74.40.3
.197)  3.396 ms ae1---0.scr02.lsan.ca.frontiernet.net (74.40.3.213)  3.428 ms
 8  be10---0.lcr21.lsan.ca.frontiernet.net (74.40.3.38)  11.736 ms  5.026 ms be10---0.lcr22.lsan.ca.frontiernet.
net (74.40.3.50)  9.858 ms
 9  47.155.227.1 (47.155.227.1)  6.545 ms  5.398 ms  6.499 ms

 -mel beckman

On Sep 21, 2017, at 10:45 AM, Filip Hruska <fhr () fhrnet eu> wrote:

Hi,

Did a measurement with RIPE Atlas and it seems like a worldwide problem, based on data from 100 probes.

https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/9324230/#!tracemon


Dne 9/21/17 v 19:10 Van Dyk, Donovan via NANOG napsal(a):
Hello All,

Recently I was troubleshooting a network event for a client of our who resides on the Level3 network. While trying 
to verify the path, I noticed I am no longer able to traceroute through the Level3 network.
The funny thing is this is not just isolated to the /32. It appears to be that the entire 4.0.0.0/9 network is no 
longer able to traceroute through. Everything dies on their edge network.

This appears to be isolated to traceroute. I have check this in NA and EU.

My carrier contacted Level3 who pretty much stated that they can’t provide anything.

I have checked multiple looking glasses and other online tools and none of them make it. Even Level3 looking glass 
drops the packets.

Does anyone know anything about this? I’m pretty sure this is the first time we are seeing this.


Random 4.0.0.0/9 address.

NTT looking glass
Tracing the route to 4.35.230.7

1   *
    ae-2.a00.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.58) 3 msec  1 msec
 2   *  *  *
 3   *  *  *
 4   *  *  *
 5   *  *  *
 6   *  *  *


TATA looking glass
traceroute to 4.7.6.4 (4.7.6.4), 30 hops max, 52 byte packets
1  if-ae-14-3.tcore2.FNM-Frankfurt.as6453.net (195.219.87.89)  2.056 ms if-ae-6-2.tcore1.FR0-Frankfurt.as6453.net 
(195.219.50.173)  1.253 ms  1.177 ms
     MPLS Label=616998 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1
2  195.219.50.50 (195.219.50.50)  1.214 ms  1.247 ms  1.535 ms
3  195.219.50.50 (195.219.50.50)  1.144 ms *  2.246 ms
4  * * *
5  * * *
6  * * *
7  * * *
8  * * *
9  * * *
10  * * *


Telia looking glass
traceroute to 4.7.6.4 (4.7.6.4), 30 hops max, 52 byte packets
1  if-ae-14-3.tcore2.FNM-Frankfurt.as6453.net (195.219.87.89)  2.056 ms if-ae-6-2.tcore1.FR0-Frankfurt.as6453.net 
(195.219.50.173)  1.253 ms  1.177 ms
     MPLS Label=616998 CoS=0 TTL=1 S=1
2  195.219.50.50 (195.219.50.50)  1.214 ms  1.247 ms  1.535 ms
3  195.219.50.50 (195.219.50.50)  1.144 ms *  2.246 ms
4  * * *
5  * * *
6  * * *
7  * * *
8  * * *
9  * * *
10  * * *


Level3 looking glass
Traceroute results from Atlanta, GA to 4.200.65.42(dialup-4.200.65.42.Dial1.LosAngeles1)

  1  0.0.0.0  * * *
  2  0.0.0.0  * * *
  3  0.0.0.0  * * *
  4  0.0.0.0  * * *
  5  0.0.0.0  * * *
  6  0.0.0.0  * * *
  7  0.0.0.0  * * *
  8  0.0.0.0  * * *
  9  0.0.0.0  * * *
 10  0.0.0.0  * * *
 11  0.0.0.0  * * *

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Donovan Van Dyk
SOC Network Engineer
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