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RE: CenturyLink


From: Matthew Huff <mhuff () ox com>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 09:52:47 +0000

There isn't a specific regulation on free-running GPS, just "due diligence". I work at a algorithmic program trading 
company (and have been for 20 years). We have a high ROI, the cost differential for the rubidium OC versus having to 
drop everything to conform to regulatory requirements due to a short GPS outage, makes this a no-brainer.

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-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Saku Ytti
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 3:28 AM
To: Gary E. Miller <gem () rellim com>
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: CenturyLink

Hey Gary,

On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 at 05:02, Gary E. Miller <gem () rellim com> wrote:

The Rb frequency reference will be two or three orders of magnitude 
more stable than an expensive ovenized crystal.

Perhaps, but not supported by this:
https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/specs/gpsopt.htm

For the tl;dr folk, crystal drifts +-4.5us per day, Rb +-1.1us (both seem like unsatisfactorily high numbers to me, 
i.e. you don't want to be free-running 24h with Rb). Luckily today we have GPS, Glonass, BeiDou, Galileo and couple 
smaller ones, so there should be somewhat reasonable amount of redundancy. Unsure which commercially available NTP or 
PPP master clocks support all four.

But I of course readily accept Rb is objectively more accurate than crystal, I'm just curious where it matters and I'm 
curious which regulation applies, who fall under the regulation and what specifically does the regulation require about 
free-running accuracy.

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