Re: unwise filtering policy on abuse mailboxes

[Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>]

I bet you can search the nanog list archive and find this very discussion
topic surface about ever 8-12 months...
folk always fall in this trap (or a form of it):
  "Welp, we've had 1 too many people in $CORP get infected via email, spam
filter all the things!!!"
    ... wait...
  "Oh, yea duh.. our spam/abuse alias can't block spam.. because people
will send us email they get that has spam/viruses/etc in it..whoops!!"

this 'always' happens, and we discuss it every 8-12 months.


On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 8:18 PM Ross Tajvar <ross () tajvar io> wrote:

> Seemed pretty clear to me. He sent an abuse report to abuse () psychz net and
> it was rejected as spam.
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018, 8:11 PM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:
>
> > Dan,
> >
> > Are you saying Nanog if spamming you? It's not at all clear what your
> > complaint is.
> >
> > -mel via cell
> >
> > > On Jul 24, 2018, at 4:37 PM, Brian Kantor <Brian () ampr org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 04:19:22PM -0700, Dan Hollis wrote:
> > > > can we please just stop this nonsense?
> > > >
> > > > ip under your direct control originates sewage. you should accept
> > reports as-is.
> > > > requiring victims of your sewage to go through special contortions to
> > > > report it to you is not acceptable.
> > > >
> > > > >  ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> > > > > <abuse () psychz net>
> > > > >   (reason: 550 "The mail server detected your message as spam and has
> > prevented delivery.")
> > > abuse () fsec or kr and cert () fsec or kr do the same thing.
> > >    - Brian