Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

If additional capacity were something feasible, it would be done. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Brad" <brad () persius net> 
To: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 1:53:52 PM 
Subject: Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?) 

While I agree there are unintended consequences every time advancements are made in relation to the security and 
stability of the Internet- I disagree we should be rejecting their implementations. Instead, we should innovate 
further. 
Just because end to end encryption causes bandwidth issues for a very small number users - then perhaps they could 
benefit the most by these changes with additional capacity. 
-Brad 

-------- Original message --------From: Michael Hallgren <mh () xalto net> Date: 6/17/18 11:14 (GMT-07:00) To: nanog () 
jack fr eu org Cc: Matthew Petach <matt () petach org>, nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Impacts of Encryption 
Everywhere (any solution?) 
Le 2018-06-17 12:40, nanog () jack fr eu org a écrit : 
> Well, yes, there is, you simply have to break the end to end encryption 

Yes, (or) deny service by Policy (remains to evaluate who's happy with 
that). 

Cheers, 
mh 

> On 06/17/2018 03:09 AM, Matthew Petach wrote: 
> > Except that if websites are set to HTTPS only, there's no option for 
> > disabling encryption on the client side. 
> >
> > Matt 
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 14:47 <nanog () jack fr eu org> wrote: 
> >
> > > On 06/16/2018 10:13 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
> > > > Sadly, it's just falling on deaf ears. Silicon Valley will continue 
> > > > to 
> > > think they know better than everyone else and people outside of that 
> > > bubble 
> > > will continue to be disadvantaged. 
> > >
> > > What, again ? 
> > > Encryption is what is best for the most people. 
> > > The few that will not use it can disable it. 
> > >
> > > No issue then.