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Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge


From: Colton Conor <colton.conor () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 08:23:05 -0500

I think Extreme is doing the same thing with their Extreme OptiScale™ that
Arista is doing with their Arista FlexRoute™ and EOS NetDB™. They are both
using Broadcom Jericho /Qurman with extenal TCAM, but still has a hardware
limitiation on route table size. Then in software they filer right?

Question is who has a better solution Arista or Extreme for this?

Also, the question is can any whitebox vendors do the same thing, with the
same Broadcom switch you can buy for around $9k new.

Another question, could you even consider these with the Juniper MX204
coming in at $20k?



On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 8:04 AM Kevin Burke <kburke () burlingtontelecom com>
wrote:

Thanks for everyone who responded on and off list.



As a small company that is happy to still be in business the pricing is
too good to ignore.  A “gently used” ASR-9006 is something like $45k for
one plus a shelf spare.  A brand new SLX 9540 is something like $30k for
one plus a shelf spare.



There were some common things.  Software is behind where we would like.
The occasional bug like that SSH one.  Also there are some relatively
common features like IPv6 outbound ACL and BGP MED that aren’t there.  This
stuff isn't a showstopper but I will take this a sign of things to come.



As for the notes about full tables.  Different vendors seem to have used
different techniques to get past the hard FIB limit that we are all used
to.  I had the same question when pawing through the spec sheets.  So I
asked the sales rep:



“We can support 1.5M routes…..



*These platforms support all of the requirements detailed above for
Internet routing. In particular, they support a table size of 1.5 million
IP routes today, ensuring headroom for the next 5-7 years. This scale is
made possible through our new technology called Extreme OptiScale™ for
Internet Routing that optimizes programmable hardware and software
capabilities to accelerate innovation and deliver investment protection.*




https://www.extremenetworks.com/extreme-networks-blog/internet-routing-in-the-enterprise/
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.extremenetworks.com_extreme-2Dnetworks-2Dblog_internet-2Drouting-2Din-2Dthe-2Denterprise_&d=DwMGaQ&c=H-_4ND6xHpqgzcyjh8aroNpgOyofdYsHrgIgJ94I47w&r=8KBJJnyFAhW7tSYonou-hrzJp0AgKIxIroKtTA850eU&m=KQ3bFBpmJxMvk6-gUGIquclVowK5s1yqe6K3DhY5MZw&s=3rfpGQzZ3dJx3KZvPnF21DuFdz569Krg0zdmo1W_Cfg&e=>
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Kevin Burke

802-540-0979

Burlington Telecom - City of Burlington

200 Church St, Burlington, VT 05401

-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org> On Behalf Of Kevin Burke
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:02 PM
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Brocade SLX Internet Edge



Does anyone have any success with the Brocade SLX 9540 or similar?  Its
going to be taking full BGP tables from two Tier1's and some peering.



The specs and sales rep says its fine, but the price makes me think its
too good to be true.



We are trying to shepherd an old Cat 6509 out of our core.





Kevin Burke

802-540-0979

Burlington Telecom - City of Burlington

200 Church St, Burlington, VT 05401


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