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Re: Internet diameter?


From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 12:08:01 -0500

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 8:48 PM Hal Murray <
hgm+nanog () ip-64-139-1-69 sjc megapath net> wrote:


Keith Medcalf  said:
"just static content" would be more accurate ...

  and using http rather than https

There were many attempts at this by Johhny-cum-lately ISPs back in the
90's
-- particularly Telco and Cableco's -- with their "transparent poxies".
Eventually they discovered that it was more cost efficient to actually
provide the customer with what the customer had purchased.

One of the complications in this area is an extra layer of logging which
could
turn into privacy invasion.

I'm pretty sure it was Comcast, but a quick search didn't find a good
reference.  Many years ago, there were a lot of complaints when customers


did you mean the 'sandvine experiment' that happened ~10 yrs back?
or did you mean the plan verizon had to proxy all http/https traffic from
consumer (fios/dsl) links through their gear so they could replace ad
content and such?
or did you mean the various (barefruit/nominim/paxfire) dns fake-answer
companies that dropped your customer on their "search platform" for
monetization?

fairly much all of those are a wreck for consumer privacy :(


discovered that their transparent proxy web site traffic was getting
logged.
Comcast said they weren't using it for anything beyond normal operations
work,
but nobody believed them.  Shortly after that, they gave up on proxying.

I'm sure the general reputation of modern Telcos and Cablecos for privacy
invasion didn't help.


it's a rough business to be in, they say... but invading privacy of their
users makes things seem a heck of a lot worse.



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