Re: Disney+ CDN

[Jose Luis Rodriguez <jlrodriguez () gmail com>]

AFAIK, HBO now/go is running on the newer Broadpeak gear+umbrella (Paseo)... at least for LatAm. 

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> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 12:01:33 -0700
> From: Jared Geiger <jared () compuwizz net>
> To: NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: Disney+ CDN
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> An article mentioned BAMTech's platform which is what NHL, MLB, and HBO GO
> are built on. The bits from the first two come from Akamai and Level3 CDNs.
> I haven't looked into where HBO Go comes from.
>
> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:58 PM Aaron Gould <aaron1 () gvtc com> wrote:
> >
> > Have we found out yet if Disney+ will have a CDN?  Like Netflix oca,
> > Akamai aanp, google ggc, facebook fna … a Disney isp-located cdn presence ?
> >
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> > disneyplus.com
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> > -Aaron
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> > *From:* NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] *On Behalf Of *Aaron Graves
> > *Sent:* Saturday, December 29, 2018 7:22 PM
> > *To:* nanog () nanog org
> > *Subject:* Disney+ CDN
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone know what Disney is planning on doing for streaming content
> > distribution once they leave Netflix?  Would be nice if they'd provide an
> > on-prem cache server.
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> > AG
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> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 12:03:10 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mark Milhollan <mlm () pixelgate net>
> To: NANOG list <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: Gi Firewall for mobile subscribers
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> > On Thu, 11 Apr 2019, Tore Anderson wrote:
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> > We've been wanting to replace our all of our ad-hoc OOB links with a
> > standardised setup based on LTE connectivity to an embedded
> > login/console server at each PoP. IPv6 would be perfect due to no
> > CGNAT and infinitesimal levels of background scanning.
> >
> > Unfortunately Telenor has decided to deploy a central firewall that
> > drops all inbound connections, making their service totally unusable
> > for our use case. I guess they don't want our money.
>
> Sounds like the console server will need to "phone home".  That a 
> workaround might be possible doesn't make a firewall which the user 
> cannot control to some degree less annoying.  Though it might be that 
> Telenor just needs to be notified/reminded that power users and business 
> customers exist.
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> /mark
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> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 15:31:24 -0400
> From: Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann () gmail com>
> To: Jared Geiger <jared () compuwizz net>
> Cc: NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: Disney+ CDN
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> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:03 PM Jared Geiger <jared () compuwizz net> wrote:
> >
> > An article mentioned BAMTech's platform which is what NHL, MLB, and HBO GO
> > are built on. The bits from the first two come from Akamai and Level3 CDNs.
> > I haven't looked into where HBO Go comes from.
>
> Yep, they decided to buy BAMTech and build their own:
> https://www.thewaltdisneycompany.com/walt-disney-company-acquire-majority-ownership-bamtech/
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> > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:58 PM Aaron Gould <aaron1 () gvtc com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Have we found out yet if Disney+ will have a CDN?  Like Netflix oca,
> > > Akamai aanp, google ggc, facebook fna … a Disney isp-located cdn presence ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > disneyplus.com
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> > >
> > > -Aaron
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> > > *From:* NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] *On Behalf Of *Aaron
> > > Graves
> > > *Sent:* Saturday, December 29, 2018 7:22 PM
> > > *To:* nanog () nanog org
> > > *Subject:* Disney+ CDN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone know what Disney is planning on doing for streaming content
> > > distribution once they leave Netflix?  Would be nice if they'd provide an
> > > on-prem cache server.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > AG
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> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 15:34:22 -0400
> From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
> To: Jared Geiger <jared () compuwizz net>
> Cc: NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: Disney+ CDN
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> I wouldn't expect them to build out anything until they got some usage data
> to determine the build/buy economics.
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> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:02 PM Jared Geiger <jared () compuwizz net> wrote:
> >
> > An article mentioned BAMTech's platform which is what NHL, MLB, and HBO GO
> > are built on. The bits from the first two come from Akamai and Level3 CDNs.
> > I haven't looked into where HBO Go comes from.
> >
> > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:58 PM Aaron Gould <aaron1 () gvtc com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Have we found out yet if Disney+ will have a CDN?  Like Netflix oca,
> > > Akamai aanp, google ggc, facebook fna … a Disney isp-located cdn presence ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > disneyplus.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Aaron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] *On Behalf Of *Aaron
> > > Graves
> > > *Sent:* Saturday, December 29, 2018 7:22 PM
> > > *To:* nanog () nanog org
> > > *Subject:* Disney+ CDN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone know what Disney is planning on doing for streaming content
> > > distribution once they leave Netflix?  Would be nice if they'd provide an
> > > on-prem cache server.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > AG
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> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 14:37:54 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
> To: Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann () gmail com>
> Cc: NANOG <nanog () nanog org>, Jared Geiger <jared () compuwizz net>
> Subject: Re: Disney+ CDN
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> $1.6B for less than half of the company and they don't even source the bits themselves? Hrm.... 
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> From: "Chris Grundemann" <cgrundemann () gmail com> 
> To: "Jared Geiger" <jared () compuwizz net> 
> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org> 
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 2:31:24 PM 
> Subject: Re: Disney+ CDN 
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> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:03 PM Jared Geiger < jared () compuwizz net > wrote: 
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> An article mentioned BAMTech's platform which is what NHL, MLB, and HBO GO are built on. The bits from the first two 
> come from Akamai and Level3 CDNs. I haven't looked into where HBO Go comes from. 
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> Yep, they decided to buy BAMTech and build their own: 
> https://www.thewaltdisneycompany.com/walt-disney-company-acquire-majority-ownership-bamtech/ 
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> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:58 PM Aaron Gould < aaron1 () gvtc com > wrote: 
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> Have we found out yet if Disney+ will have a CDN? Like Netflix oca, Akamai aanp, google ggc, facebook fna … a Disney 
> isp-located cdn presence ? 
>
> disneyplus.com 
>
> -Aaron 
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> From: NANOG [mailto: nanog-bounces () nanog org ] On Behalf Of Aaron Graves 
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 7:22 PM 
> To: nanog () nanog org 
> Subject: Disney+ CDN 
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> Anyone know what Disney is planning on doing for streaming content distribution once they leave Netflix? Would be 
> nice if they'd provide an on-prem cache server. 
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> AG 
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> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 19:42:30 +0000
> From: Luke Guillory <lguillory () reservetele com>
> To: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>, Chris Grundemann
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> Cc: Jared Geiger <jared () compuwizz net>, NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: RE: Disney+ CDN
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> They owned 33% and bought another 42% making it an even 75%.
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> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 2:38 PM
> To: Chris Grundemann
> Cc: Jared Geiger; NANOG
> Subject: Re: Disney+ CDN
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> $1.6B for less than half of the company and they don't even source the bits themselves?  Hrm....
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> From: "Chris Grundemann" <cgrundemann () gmail com<mailto:cgrundemann () gmail com>>
> To: "Jared Geiger" <jared () compuwizz net<mailto:jared () compuwizz net>>
> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org>>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 2:31:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Disney+ CDN
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> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:03 PM Jared Geiger <jared () compuwizz net<mailto:jared () compuwizz net>> wrote:
> An article mentioned BAMTech's platform which is what NHL, MLB, and HBO GO are built on. The bits from the first two 
> come from Akamai and Level3 CDNs. I haven't looked into where HBO Go comes from.
>
> Yep, they decided to buy BAMTech and build their own:
> https://www.thewaltdisneycompany.com/walt-disney-company-acquire-majority-ownership-bamtech/
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:58 PM Aaron Gould <aaron1 () gvtc com<mailto:aaron1 () gvtc com>> wrote:
> Have we found out yet if Disney+ will have a CDN?  Like Netflix oca, Akamai aanp, google ggc, facebook fna … a Disney 
> isp-located cdn presence ?
>
> disneyplus.com<http://disneyplus.com>
>
> -Aaron
>
>
>
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org<mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org>] On Behalf Of Aaron Graves
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 7:22 PM
> To: nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Disney+ CDN
>
> Anyone know what Disney is planning on doing for streaming content distribution once they leave Netflix?  Would be 
> nice if they'd provide an on-prem cache server.
>
> AG
>
>
> --
> @ChrisGrundemann
> http://chrisgrundemann.com
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> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 13:23:29 -0700
> From: "Scott Weeks" <surfer () mauigateway com>
> To: <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: Disney+ CDN
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> --- cgrundemann () gmail com wrote:
> From: Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann () gmail com>
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> Yep, they decided to buy BAMTech and build their own:
> https://www.thewaltdisneycompany.com/walt-disney-company-acquire-majority-ownership-bamtech/
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> https://www.bamtechmedia.com/company
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> 2004 - "Patent awarded for GeoLocation"
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> I'd be interested in learning about how well that one works!
>
> scott
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> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 19:43:56 -0400
> From: "Valdis Kl=?utf-8?Q?=c4=93?=tnieks" <valdis.kletnieks () vt edu>
> To: surfer () mauigateway com
> Cc: nanog () nanog org
> Subject: Re: Disney+ CDN
> Message-ID: <1720.1555112636@turing-police>
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> On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 13:23:29 -0700, "Scott Weeks" said:
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> > 2004 - "Patent awarded for GeoLocation"
> >
> > I'd be interested in learning about how well that one works!
>
> Under US law, ideas submitted for patent need be "non-obvious". There's no
> requirement they actually be a good idea. Though I guess that it should prevent
> the patenting of obvious bad ideas - but $DEITY knows there's plenty of subtly
> flawed concepts out there....  (And there's ample evidence that the USPTO is on
> occasion challenged by the "obviousness" requirement...)
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> Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 11:13:48 +0200
> From: Tore Anderson <tore () fud no>
> To: Mark Milhollan <mlm () pixelgate net>, NANOG list <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: Gi Firewall for mobile subscribers
> Message-ID: <6e81e3d5-ed9b-eedc-5ec8-be782e477467 () fud no>
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> * Mark Milhollan
> > > On Thu, 11 Apr 2019, Tore Anderson wrote:
> > >
> > > We've been wanting to replace our all of our ad-hoc OOB links with a
> > > standardised setup based on LTE connectivity to an embedded
> > > login/console server at each PoP. IPv6 would be perfect due to no
> > > CGNAT and infinitesimal levels of background scanning.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately Telenor has decided to deploy a central firewall that
> > > drops all inbound connections, making their service totally unusable
> > > for our use case. I guess they don't want our money.
> >
> > Sounds like the console server will need to "phone home".  That a workaround might be possible doesn't make a 
> > firewall which the user cannot control to some degree less annoying.  Though it might be that Telenor just needs to 
> > be notified/reminded that power users and business customers exist.
>
> Phoning home is not an option here, as the whole point is to have an OOB backdoor that works even if «home» is 
> totally FUBAR.
>
> For that reason it needs to be completely independent of the production network. Standard Internet connections are 
> perfect, IFF they are bi-directional.
>
> Tore
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