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Re: Tiered operations support


From: Joshua Miller <contemno () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 17:02:15 -0400

Mike,

You're essentially trying to change the culture of the organization. Unless
you have senior management buy-in, it will be pretty fruitless.

Maybe while announcing the restructuring, offer bonuses to keep people from
leaving prematurely? People can adapt if the rate of change isn't too high.

Like others have said, turnover isn't bad as long as you can maintain
continuity of operations. Keep in mind, the highest performers are the most
mobile.

Best,
Joshua

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 4:24 PM Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net>
wrote:

Both of those would be my first reactions.

Or... depending on how "not professional" your staff is, you might
consider sending them out for some training, or bringing someone in to do
some training.

Heck, you could challenge your your staff with "ok team, go figure out a
more mature approach."

Miles Fidelman


---harbor235 () gmail com  wrote:

Maybe you want some of them to leave, if they're "not
a professional organization".  Get some fresh folks
from professional minded organizations and see if
the others quit being reactionary only and step up
their game.

and


On 8/23/19 2:47 PM, Clayton Zekelman wrote:

Find a new job.

At 02:40 PM 23/08/2019, harbor235 wrote:
Hi noggers,

First some background;

I have inherited a real-time services delivery infrastructure that
while technically functional is absent of a wworking tiered
operational support structure. In addition, the infrastructure was
not implemented with technology best practices and has some remaining
single points of failure. T3/engineering handles engineering,
operational support, testing, and development. T1 and T2 perform some
tasks but not what is expected of a traditional support structure, As
we are attempting to scale our program our limitations are obvious.

We are trying to scale the program and need to remedy all single
points of failure and implement technical and management best
practices. While we try to remedy all of the above, our customer
expects routine capability enhancements.

Question(s)
1) how to pivot to a tiered operational support structure and set
expectations for each tier level. How do I do that without having my
entire staff leave?
       Current staff is not a professional organization and are
used to a purely reactive state.

2) ITIL process are great and we have started to implement what makes
sense but I need a operational support stucture/model to support and
manage this effort.

3) How do you manage your engineering and operational projects?
Currently I am using Excel for all projects short and long term and
also use a seperate spreadsheet for my short term project sprints?
Basic project tracking with no mature processes involve.

How are you pulling this all together?

I would like to hire key positions that can bring essential
capabilities to my project but I am limited hiring new staff.

thoughts, suggestions

Mike

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Practice is when everything works but no one knows why.
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