Re: User Unknown (WAS: really amazon?)

[John Curran <jcurran () arin net>]

On 31 Jul 2019, at 5:31 PM, Scott Christopher <sc () ottie org<mailto:sc () ottie org>> wrote:

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What I have been saying is that, if ARIN did something so brazen as to revoke Amazon's resources because of some 
bounced PoC emails, the impact would be *dramatic* and likely lead to the end of ARIN. Just think about this for a 
minute. :) Obviously this will not happen because ARIN is so righteously competent. :)

Scott -

ARIN revokes resources because of other administrative matters (e.g. not paying one’s ARIN fees), and while there is 
obviously quite a bit of process and notice to avoid this if all possible, we do indeed revoke and networks go down as 
a result.    <https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/returns/#revocation

(This isn’t much different that what happens when an organization fails to renew their organizational domain name and 
then disappears from the net – failure to follow contractual terms results in consequences sometimes rather dramatic, 
and it’s not the registry’s fault nor is there meaningful legal recourse for halfwitted self-inflicted harm…)

If the community passes a new policy that makes clear that ARIN is to exercise contractual authority for violations of 
that policy, then we will establish a similar set of processes (with appropriate notice provisions) and then implement.

As I have noted previously, I have zero doubt in the enforceability of the ARIN registration services agreements in 
this regard – so please carefully consider proposed policy both from the overall community benefit being sought, and 
from the implications faced as a number resource holder having to comply oneself with the new obligations.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers