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Re: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls
From: Andreas Ott <andreas () naund org>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 09:09:21 -0800
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 11:16:08AM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote:
How is it envisioned that this will work?
My prediction for 2020: it still won't work, like in 2019 and the years before that. A call originated, transported and delivered equals revenue for all involved parties, so it is in their best interest not to block them, unless the fines are really magnitude(s) higher than the revenue.
I mean, I'm all for less spam calling... and ideally there would be some form of 'source address verification' on the PSTN/phone network... but in today's world that really just doesn't exist and the motivations to suppress fake sources are 'just as good' as they are on the intertubes. (with crappier options in the gear - SHAKEN/STIR are really not even available in the majority of the switch 'gear' right?)
When I tried to pay my AT&T uverse VOIP "landline" bill this morning they offered me a free "CallProtect App" but when I click on more info it's in fact only a link to open their "control call forwarding and blocking" part of the home phone features web site. All their suggested controls are enabled, still I am receiving only unwanted calls on this line. In the call and voicemail history list for my number I have at least these examples for you to laugh at. Hint: look at the numbers. and I have also been told that there is no equivalent of uRPF in the phone world. Name Number When Length Actions Suspected Spam 888-194-1242 11-30-19, 10:56 AM 0:00 Add to Address Book From Number When Size NAME NOT FOUND 408-145-1341 08-12-19, 09:14 AM 29 Kb NAME NOT FOUND 213-141-5163 05-17-19, 10:22 AM 353 Kb -andreas
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- Re: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls Christopher Morrow (Dec 19)
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- RE: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls Dan Hollis (Dec 19)
- RE: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls Keith Medcalf (Dec 19)
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- Re: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls Chad Dailey (Dec 19)
- RE: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls Keith Medcalf (Dec 19)
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- RE: FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls Kain, Becki (.) (Dec 19)
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