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Re: power to the internet
From: Michael Loftis <mloftis () wgops com>
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2019 19:16:52 -0700
On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 19:00 Constantine A. Murenin <mureninc () gmail com> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 at 19:32, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:On the dark side, this is probably coming to a lot more states and countries due to climate change. Australia. Sigh.Do you have a source for this? It would seem that these power issues are rather unique to California not because of some "climate change" bogeyman, but rather because of a failed public policy at the state level. It would also seem that these issues of rolling blackouts aren't even new to California, either, as, apparently, it's already been the norm during 2000/2001:
Having lived through the blackouts that was entirely different. 90% Enron manipulating the markets. There was plenty of capacity both in transmission and generation, but Enron manipulated prices and apparent supply to make money and screwed the whole state over. There was just about 2x the generating capacity, no real shortage. This time it’s PG&E all alone, but still fallout from back then. Too much liability and they’ve not maintained the infrastructure and so they decided that to reduce the liability costs it’s cheaper to blackout. Same story again different colors. PG&E making a mint while people get screwed (PG&E was mostly at the getting screwed end in 2000-2001)
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_electricity_crisis C.
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