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Re: Last Mile Design


From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net>
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 15:28:22 -0500

There is that.


On 2/9/19 3:27 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
The biggest use of bandwidth as the IoT buzzword comes to fruition is exploits.



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*From: *"Miles Fidelman" <mfidelman () meetinghouse net>
*To: *"Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>
*Cc: *nanog () nanog org
*Sent: *Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:26:13 PM
*Subject: *Re: Last Mile Design

I expect things are going to change as IoT takes off - security cameras, baby monitors, start to push video upstream - that makes a difference.


And then there are the efforts of cell carriers to push traffic onto home wifi - more and more facetime video will also add load.


Miles


On 2/9/19 3:14 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

    Electrical consumption of the equipment is different and then the
    environmental conditioning that larger electronic load.

    Let's not forget that actual consumer bit consumption changes very
    little whether they have 20 megs or 2 gigs provisioned and available.



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    *From: *"Miles Fidelman" <mfidelman () meetinghouse net>
    *To: *nanog () nanog org
    *Sent: *Saturday, February 9, 2019 12:20:36 PM
    *Subject: *Re: Last Mile Design

    Speaking of which, the Grant County Public Utility District
    (Washington
    State), has wired active ethernet all over their rural county.

    Seems to me that the cost difference between splitters & switches
    is a
    pretty minor component of deploying FTTH - the costs are in the
    trenching, and the fiber.  What you put on the poles, or in the lawn
    furniture, is a pretty minor cost component. Though... getting
    power to
    the switches might be an issue, less so if you're deploying on
    power poles.

    Miles Fidelman

    On 2/9/19 12:59 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
    > On Sat, 9 Feb 2019, Mark Tinka wrote:
    >
    >> If I had to build a consumer broadband network and had the budget
    >> (and owned the fibre) to do so, I'd definitely always choose
    Active-E:
    >
    > For anyone saying it's "impossible" to do AE they're welcome
    here to
    > the nordic region and especially Sweden where PON is basically
    unheard
    > of. We have millions of AE connected households. I live in one
    of them.
    >
-- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
    In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra


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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra

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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra


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