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Re: Hulu thinks all my IP addresses are "business class", how to reach them?
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2019 18:08:53 -0800
On Nov 22, 2019, at 17:47 , Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 8:52 AM Blake Hudson <blake () ispn net <mailto:blake () ispn net>> wrote: This is absolutely an issue with Xbox Live/Sony PSN or RBLs used by mail servers for reputation purposes. For better or worse these systems equate one IPv4 address == one user (and possibly one IPv6 /64 == one user). My opinion is that this may be a reasonable or "good enough" assumption Talk to someone who has been sued for downloading or sharing movies. They'll swear on their own grave that one IP can never equal one user. ;) -A
I’ll swear it’s a horrible assumption. Personally, I use many IP addresses each day. Some of them are also used by others. Some of them are not. Equating IP Address <-> Person relationships as being anything remotely resembling 1:1 is beyond absurd. To do so with an IPv6 /64 is even more so. Considering it to be reasonable or “good enough” is so far from valid I don’t even know where to begin. Owen
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