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Re: RIPE our of IPv4
From: Justin Streiner <streinerj () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 12:18:53 -0500
On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 11:46 AM Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com> wrote:
That said, google see nearly 40% of their traffic on ipv6 in the usa , growth trend looks strong https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html And Comcast (71%), Charter (52%), VZ (85%), ATT (60 and 78%) , and T-Mobile (95%) have the majority of their subs on ipv6 https://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/
Verizon is an interesting case. While IPv6 penetration on the wireless side is very high, the same is not true on the Fios/DSL side. IPv6 deployment there is nearly nonexistent. I've heard rumblings that some early Fios users will need to have their ONTs replaced to be able to get v6, regardless if the router itself supports it. I don't know if this is true, because I've never been able to get a straight/authoritative answer from Verizon. While a tunnel from HE works perfectly well, it would be nice to have native v6 from VZ. jms
Sadly, ipv6 is creating a bifurcation of the internet. Scale shops have v6, and non-scale shops don’t. The big players are pulling away, and that makes things bleak for the folks just trying to tread water in ipv4.Frankly, I'm surprised anti-IPv6 people still have employment. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com -Brian ------------------------------ *From: *"Brian Knight" <ml () knight-networks com> *To: *"Mark Andrews" <marka () isc org> *Cc: *"nanog" <nanog () nanog org> *Sent: *Friday, November 29, 2019 10:29:17 AM *Subject: *Re: RIPE our of IPv4On Nov 27, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Mark Andrews <marka () isc org> wrote: On 28 Nov 2019, at 06:08, Brian Knight <ml () knight-networks com> wrote:On 2019-11-26 17:11, Ca By wrote: On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 12:15 AM Sabri Berisha <sabri () cluecentral netwrote:----- On Nov 26, 2019, at 1:36 AM, Doug Barton dougb () dougbarton uswrote:[snip]there is no ROI at this point. In this kind of environment thereneeds tobe a strong case to invest the capex to support IPv6. IPv6 must be supported on the CxO level in order to be deployed. Thanks, Sabri, (Badum tsss) MBAI see....well let me translate it you MBA-eese for you: FANG deployed ipv6 nearly 10 years ago. Since deploying ipv6, thecohortexperienced 300% CAGR. Also, everything is mobile, and all mobileprovidersin the usa offer ipv6 by default in most cases. Latency! Scale! Asyourcompany launches its digital transformation iot 2020 virtualization container initiatives, ipv6 will be an integral part of stayingrelevant onthe blockchain. Also, FANG did it nearly 10 years ago. Big contentandbig eyeballs are on ipv6, ipv4 is a winnowing longtail of irrelevanceandiot botnets.None of which matters a damn to almost all of my business eyeballcustomers. They can still get from our network to 100% of all Internet content & services via IPv4 in 2019.No you can’t. You can’t reach the machine I’m typing on via IPv4 andit is ON THE INTERNET. It is directly reachable via IPv6. Selling Internet connectivity without IPv6 should be considered fraud these days. Don’tyou believe in “Truth in Advertising”?I had meant to write “They can still get from our network to 100% of all Internet content and services that matter to them [our customers] via IPv4...” 0% of my IPv4-only customers have opened tickets saying they cannot reach some service that is only IPv6 accessible. So if they do care about IPv6 connectivity, they haven’t communicated that to us.Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW<https://www.google.com/maps/search/1+Seymour+St.,+Dundas+Valley,+NSW?entry=gmail&source=g> 2117, AustraliaPHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka () isc orgThanks, -Brian
Current thread:
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4, (continued)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Brandon Butterworth (Nov 27)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Brian Knight (Nov 27)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Baldur Norddahl (Nov 27)
- RE: RIPE our of IPv4 Michel Py (Nov 27)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Mark Andrews (Nov 27)
- RE: RIPE our of IPv4 Michel Py (Nov 27)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Brian Knight (Nov 29)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Mike Hammett (Nov 29)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Brian Knight (Nov 30)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Ca By (Nov 30)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Justin Streiner (Nov 30)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Matthew Kaufman (Nov 30)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Filip Hruska (Nov 30)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Matthew Kaufman (Nov 30)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Brandon Martin (Nov 30)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Matthew Kaufman (Nov 30)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Brandon Martin (Nov 30)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Brandon Martin (Nov 29)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Valdis Klētnieks (Nov 29)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Mark Milhollan (Nov 26)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Doug Barton (Nov 27)